Ohhhh-kayyyy
When I was in fifth grade (1965), I was riding my bike, contemplating life, the universe and everything and sudenly I stopped and asked: What if none of this is real, even the people, and only I am real? What if it is all just an insertion into my consciousness that exists on some other plane?
And decades later we have “The Matrix”. :-P
Fact is, there is so little actual matter making up the universe that it is made out of, essentially, nothing. We only perceive it to be something.
Seriously.
God’s creation is very real, and we are all in it both physically as well as spiritually.