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Is Ted Cruz, born in Canada, eligible to run for president?
Angie Drobnic Holan ^ | August 20th, 2013 | Tampa Bay Times

Posted on 11/13/2014 9:33:46 PM PST by Dallas59

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To: Dallas59
Sure why not?

President Sumohadiwidjojo wasn't born here either!

41 posted on 11/13/2014 11:36:55 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall ; / ?)
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To: ansel12
Who ordered it and then who arranged it down to all the details?

The RNC and DNC obviously were involved in taking care of the details, as to who specifically arranged that may be impossible to tell: it likely was groupthink on the same order as amnesty is, even if the amnesty talk is far more brazen.

42 posted on 11/13/2014 11:37:28 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Ray76

If those acts are applicable to Cruz then he is not a Natural Born Citizen — You see, those acts are “normal legislative acts” and such cannot alter the meaning of the Constitution, therefore if such naturalization were applicable to Mr. Cruz he could not be eligible as a Natural Born Citizen.


43 posted on 11/13/2014 11:40:32 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark
>"The New World Order types hate that requirement in our Constitution and want it gone. "

Almost as much as they hate the 2nd amendment!

44 posted on 11/13/2014 11:42:14 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall ; / ?)
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To: rawcatslyentist

I’m sure the NWO types are much more concerned with the 2nd amendment than they are with the NBC issue.

It’s not like they would have any trouble finding compliant puppets with two citizen parents to do their bidding as president. The DemocRat party is full of them.


45 posted on 11/13/2014 11:46:45 PM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away)
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To: Ray76
Nothing before 9 July 1868 is of much relevance.

As for McCarran-Walter, it addressed a lot of issues, the natural-born question not being among them.

46 posted on 11/13/2014 11:51:54 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: Fresh Wind

Yeah but most of them look and come across like the walking dead. IE Lurch, Mc Lame, B Dole...


47 posted on 11/13/2014 11:56:06 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall ; / ?)
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To: OneWingedShark

Although I don’t understand the subtleties of tho particular law, only parent needs to be an American citizen at the time of birth to be eligible.

At least, that is what I understand having read about it during the debate about Obama’s origins.


48 posted on 11/14/2014 12:01:03 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: cynwoody; GeronL
That's not the criterion.

The criterion is, as long as it is our guy it doesn't matter, besides everyone does it. Now leaves this thread alone or the electrified cat picture will show up.

49 posted on 11/14/2014 12:18:53 AM PST by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: cynwoody

Identical circumstances are treated differently by each law.


50 posted on 11/14/2014 12:32:43 AM PST by Ray76 (We must destroy the Uniparty or be destroyed by them.)
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To: itsahoot
The criterion is, as long as it is our guy it doesn't matter, besides everyone does it.

My position on the question has always been that crackpot definitions of "natural born" crafted to exclude Obama are wrong and have the side effect of excluding perfectly fine natural born citizens, such as Ted Cruz, whom I support.

Then, of course, there is the practical political consideration: you need 67 senators to remove Obama, no matter what his citizenship.

51 posted on 11/14/2014 12:44:05 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: Dallas59

Another “Concern Troll” thread.

Please refer to:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3059395/posts?page=43#43


52 posted on 11/14/2014 12:44:45 AM PST by Kaosinla (The More the Plans Fail. The More the Planners Plan.)
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To: Dallas59

Ted Cruz was an American citizen at birth. This makes him a Natural Born Citizen.


53 posted on 11/14/2014 1:11:33 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: cynwoody

There is no evidence that Obama is a U.S. citizen, because: His father was a foreigner; his mother could not transmit citizenship to him; there is no evidence he was born in the U.S.


54 posted on 11/14/2014 1:15:33 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: cynwoody

There is no evidence that Obama is a U.S. citizen—WITHOUT resorting to crackpot definitions.

His father was not a citizen; his mother could not transmit citizenship (too young); there is no evidence he was born in Hawaii or anywhere else in the U.S. In fact, the creation of a crudely forged “birth certificate” is evidence he was NOT born anywhere in the U.S.


55 posted on 11/14/2014 1:18:12 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: OneWingedShark

Your retort misses the point.

The absence of a definition in the Constitution is not an ABUSE, it is a relevant fact. You cited something that is clearly an abuse of power by the government.


56 posted on 11/14/2014 1:20:36 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan
There is no credible evidence that either his short or his long form was forged.

Face the fact: An African commie African nationalist anti-colonialist knocked up an American anarchist slut, broke up with her, and got deported back to Africa, leaving her alone to raise the resulting natural born American freak.

So what did she do? She fobbed him off on her parents, after dumping his Indonesian stepfather and winning Ford Foundation money to go off and do the liberal third-world thing. Meanwhile, his grandpa hooked him up with his buddy Frank Marshall Davis, who mentored him in the ways of communism and angry blackness.

The kid grew up, dreamt of his father, stopped using "Barry" in favor of "Barack", went to the Law School, had his life story ghost written, became a millionaire on book royalties, became a senator, got elected President. Twice.

This is not something you fix with the cockamamie theories birferism offers.

As I said, the only way you fix this is with 67 senators, the ballot box having failed. Twice.

57 posted on 11/14/2014 1:48:37 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: Yaelle

+1

that’s it.

0bama was not born from a woman who could confer US citizenship.

Cruz was.


58 posted on 11/14/2014 3:05:06 AM PST by Principled (Obama: Unblemished by success.)
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To: Dallas59
Considering Cruz is acknowledged as one of the best constitutional lawyers in the country, I would think he would know that answer. And that answer is yes.

Cruz 2016.

59 posted on 11/14/2014 3:12:33 AM PST by catfish1957 (Everything I needed to know about Islam was written on 11 Sep 2001)
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To: Dallas59

I don’t see why no, the boy king in the W.H. now was born in Kenya. As Hill would say “What difference dose it make”


60 posted on 11/14/2014 3:17:46 AM PST by lostboy61 (Lock and Load and stand your ground!.)
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