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1 posted on 10/15/2014 7:00:27 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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The only thing that could go wrong is you die. Liberals don’t put much value on other’s lives so it’s not a problem if it’s you that dies.


2 posted on 10/15/2014 7:04:35 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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If you fail, something is learned.


3 posted on 10/15/2014 7:05:12 PM PDT by cripplecreek
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The sensible approach to manned Mars exploration is simple in concept: send nuclear powered tunneling robots first to mine underground habitats. It solves all sorts of problems, plus it makes future missions cumulative, so they don’t have to “reinvent the wheel”.

It’s pretty easy to conceptualize the process.

1) First assemble and fuel a modular “interplanetary shuttle” in orbit around Earth. It will take the spaceship from Earth orbit to Martian orbit and back. This means that all the ship has to do is get into orbit from Earth, land on Mars, get into Martian orbit, and land on Earth. It doesn’t have to carry all the fuel it needs to go between planets, so can carry more water, food and equipment.

2) The first ship to Mars is on a one way trip, so the shuttle returns to Earth empty. The Martian lander is to take the robot to the surface, then to be cannibalized to build the habitat in the rock shaft.

3) The tunneling robot drags a conveyor belt underneath and behind it, which takes away the mined rubble. At intervals while mining, it bores holes in the ceiling and inserts reinforcing rods. Finally on exiting the clean shaft, it sprays the rock with a sealant against microfissure leaks.

4) The lander provides the pressure doors, flooring, supports members, etc. All pre-wired and ready to assemble. Once done with pressure and heat retention tests, the robot either continues to tunnel and improve the place, or plugs in its nuclear reactor to provide power.


5 posted on 10/15/2014 8:17:40 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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With existing technology they’ll be dead before they get to Mars.


6 posted on 10/15/2014 8:26:04 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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Actually, the MIT study wasn't half right. While I have little doubt humans can, and likely will, live permanently on the Moon, Mars, and elsewhere in our solar system in the not too distant future, there are significant roadblocks that have to be overcome before long-term survival on the Moon or Mars will be possible.

Along with the issues brought up by MIT, the issues of cosmic radiation and in situ resource utilization (ISRU) have to be overcome.

Those issues, spelled out in what was briefly, before Obama, a very influential report by the National Academy called "The Scientific Context for Exploration of the Moon (2007), were national priorities.

Far from cancelling our lunar program, Obama and his Democrat colleagues cancelled those specific technologies and the vital research already underway, with varying degrees of progress, almost immediately after he assumed office. The challenges haven't gone away, and anyone who wishes to read about them for themselves are welcome to read that same report here.

I won't comment on the direction NASA and the National Academy have taken since 2009, except to remark on the similarity to that of the CDC.

7 posted on 10/15/2014 9:37:07 PM PDT by Prospero (Si Deus trucido mihi, ego etiam fides Deus.)
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