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USDA: Genetically modified wheat found in Montana
AP ^ | Sep 26, 2013 | MARY CLARE JALONICK

Posted on 09/27/2014 10:38:21 AM PDT by LucyT

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To: freedomfiter2
We all know that selective breeding isn’t the same thing.

Yeah it is. Using a gene gun just gets you where you want to go much faster, and with much greater certainty.

Also, the slow change allows the consumers of the plant to adapt as well.

It takes time for consumers to adapt to the fact that they are ingesting significantly less quantities of mycotoxins from their GM corn than they were from the non-GMO corn? I'm sure these same consumers miss having elevated levels of toxins in their drinking water from the pre-GMO glory days when farmers used more herbicides and pesticides.

21 posted on 09/27/2014 1:57:52 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: LucyT

I thought they only grew GMO dental floss in Montana.


22 posted on 09/27/2014 2:01:18 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Boundless

Having been brought up on a ranch, living in the country and eating the paleo way is natural for me-heavy on the meat and non-starch veggie protein, no refined or processed food, and fresh fruit is the “sweets”. Those of us who have continued to eat that way are not overweight and are healthy.

My female relatives thought that stupid pyramid was a joke-and I don’t think the new govt “plate” is any better-carbs make you fat, protein builds muscle. If someone had served my male relatives one of the starchy, meatless meals on Michelle’s menu, they would have started a riot-you don’t chase after livestock fueled on potatoes, lettuce and French toast...

The only packaged thing I buy on a regular basis-besides natural yogurt-is crunchy granola bars that I carry when I hike and in my truck for my lunch, with fruit-almost every box and can label you read says either fructose this, wheat that, corn syrup-stuff that doesn’t have anything to do with a healthy diet based on “real” food.

Grains and other starch are not a big part of my diet- sometimes brown rice, and in winter, bread I make with whole grain flour from the aforementioned mill, sometimes sourdough French bread-I barter most of the bread I make for dairy stuff like goat’s milk cheese, honey etc, since I don’t keep livestock or bees yet-I hope to change that soon.

Corn tortillas were the grain of choice when I was a kid, homemade with masa from cornmeal, but I seldom eat those now-making them is not my favorite chore...

There are a couple of mills that advertise all natural, stone ground grains on the ‘net, but I don’t have any idea if it really is.


23 posted on 09/27/2014 2:26:37 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up yoiur boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: khelus
When Monsanto tells you GMO's haven't been proven harmful, the small print says 'because there was no testing.

Lol - no testing? At all? How do they know that it grows?

I love it when know-nothings blunder into discussions where they parrot junk from social media.

Please tell us more about the lack of testing.

24 posted on 09/27/2014 2:32:12 PM PDT by corkoman
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To: Mase

If its so safe why don’t they want to label it? Why arnt they out there testing its safety?

Indeed they are trying to hide it.


25 posted on 09/27/2014 2:32:55 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: corkoman
Re: When Monsanto tells you GMO's haven't been proven harmful, the small print says 'because there was no testing.

Lol - no testing? At all? How do they know that it grows?

I love it when know-nothings blunder into discussions where they parrot junk from social media.

Please tell us more about the lack of testing.


I love it more when those who lack facts resort to ridicule.

In the context of my post 'no testing' = no testing to back up Monsanto's claims of GMO's not being harmful. But then again you knew that didn't you ?
26 posted on 09/27/2014 2:45:30 PM PDT by khelus
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To: driftdiver
Some people see conspiracy everywhere they look.

Then there are other people who understand that the labeling system is based on hazard and nutritional composition. Since there is no hazard in consuming GMO food (every single food you eat had been genetically modified), and the fact that there is no nutritional differentiation, there is absolutely no need to require any additional labeling.

You could always buy organic if spending more money for absolutely no benefit is your idea of value.

27 posted on 09/27/2014 2:53:26 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: khelus
back up Monsanto's claims of GMO's not being harmful.

You've been eating genetically modified food your entire life. As a matter of fact, every single agricultural product available in our food supply has been genetically modified. And we are living longer, on average, than at any other time in human history.

Sounds like a well designed test to me, that has delivered results that are impossible to argue with. But here you are.....

28 posted on 09/27/2014 2:58:29 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: driftdiver

That implies intent on the owners part. I think the property owners should treat it no differently than if the patent holder/experimenter spilled 1000 gallons of dieldrin or DDT on their property.

It is an “unauthorized release”, not only that, but of an unapproved product. As the patent holder, and as it is not approved for release, Monsanto clearly is the responsible party for the contamination and liable for full mitigation costs.


29 posted on 09/27/2014 3:18:28 PM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: Axenolith

Monsanto has better lawyers than farmers


30 posted on 09/27/2014 3:42:27 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: rktman

Wars. Rumors of wars, plagues, and famine. Seems like it’s all coming together.


31 posted on 09/27/2014 3:48:29 PM PDT by antidisestablishment (Half measures do not advance anything; they are only stakes in lost ground. Kill the RINOs.)
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To: Mase

There is a need. Take your insults and drink roundup straight.


32 posted on 09/27/2014 4:13:50 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
Monsanto has better lawyers than farmers

Bingo.

33 posted on 09/27/2014 5:09:47 PM PDT by LucyT (If you're not paranoid, you don't know what's going on.)
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To: khelus
You seem to know about this subject. Tell us more about the "no testing" thing.

How much are developers willing to invest in technology without testing it? The regulations for food approval are similar to pharmaceuticals. But mabye you know details of how they were able to skirt those regs?

Or are you just spouting off from one of your Facebook groups?

34 posted on 09/27/2014 6:16:26 PM PDT by corkoman
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To: bgill

Lots of ridicule and very little intelligent discussion on that thread. Confusion over hybrid versus GMO too.


35 posted on 09/28/2014 12:47:09 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Mase

How?


36 posted on 09/28/2014 1:22:00 AM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: corkoman

As you likely know GMO foods have been declared safe by a consensus, the same method used to declare way man-made is real a fact.


37 posted on 09/28/2014 8:31:59 AM PDT by khelus
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back up Monsanto's claims of GMO's not being harmful.

You've been eating genetically modified food your entire life. As a matter of fact, every single agricultural product available in our food supply has been genetically modified. And we are living longer, on average, than at any other time in human history.

Sounds like a well designed test to me, that has delivered results that are impossible to argue with. But here you are....


You are also conflating GMO with hybridization, and selective breeding.

And ..... ignoring the fact that GMO food began to make it to market in 1994.
38 posted on 09/28/2014 8:36:27 AM PDT by khelus
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To: greeneyes
Lots of ridicule and very little intelligent discussion on that thread. Confusion over hybrid versus GMO too.

Those are two inconvenient truths.
39 posted on 09/28/2014 8:39:02 AM PDT by khelus
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To: khelus
the same method used to declare way man-made is real a fact.

Hate to be the one to break it to you, but man-made does exist. I see a lot of things in my apartment that are man-made.

40 posted on 09/28/2014 8:41:48 AM PDT by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them.)
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