Posted on 09/17/2014 10:06:49 AM PDT by Teotwawki
A suspected case of mistaken identity has left a 32-year-old man dead during a night-time romantic encounter in a Northeast Philadelphia apartment this week. Marc Carrion was shot in the head inside a unit at the Holme Circle Apartments Monday night after police say the man who lived there found the victim hiding in his daughter's bedroom. Carrion was rushed to Aria Health Torresdale Hospital, where he succumbed to his injuries early Tuesday morning. nvestigators believe Charles Jordan, 41, opened fire on Carrion because he took him for an intruder, but those who knew the 32-year-old claim the man had been invited into the house by Jordan's 20-year-old daughter, reported the Philadelphia Daily News.
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There’s a lot of puritans on this forum, but as far as I’m concerned, if you’ve never snuck into a girl’s house without her parents knowing about it, you haven’t lived much of a life :)
” as we are the ones discussing the case here. “
I’m pretty sure discussing the case here is purely for entertainment purposes. We have no affect on the actual humans involved.
No, of course not. But when a person make statements on this forum, then anyone on the forum is free to respond to them. It makes no sense to say that “we” are irrelevant, when we are discussing statements posted here at FR.
The pictures at the source are interesting. Daughter is tatted up, and if I saw that swarthy-looking loser in my house for any reason I’d cap him.
There are some people that think just because they own a gun, they can just shoot any dammed thing that moves, and ask questions later. I love guns as much as anyone. Even the “evil black rifles”(I own sever AR type rifles, and a couple of AK variants, along with many other firearms).
I’ve NEVER yet had to fire on any one in self defense, and if God is good, I’ll never have too; however, I’ll do so in a split second if it means protecting myself or my family(or country).
Having said that, I’ll choose my targets WISELY in defense, because I don’t want to kill any innocent people, or those I’d like to protect. I also don’t want to get put into a cage for making a mistake.
All of the above sets a pretty high bar for when to pull that trigger....
but if you're going to opine on a person's actions - you should at least read the story -
Too busy for that? Keep quiet
IF she ‘invites’ him in the middle of the night without informing her father - into her bedroom - and how did he get in? door or window?
She may b e an ‘adult’ but it’s NOT her home - if she wants to makes these decisions - she should have her own place - where SHE pays the freight. THAT give her bottom line decisions.
She had him sneak in - he knew he wasn’t supposed to be there. That’s why he ‘crouched in a corner’
and gambling that the intruder crouching in the corner doesn’t have a weapon - and giving him time to use it.
Then when the guy comes at him - reasonable to assume he’s an intruder and has the right to protect himself and daughter.
the daughter and the guy created the situation - not the father.
“and gambling that the intruder crouching in the corner doesn’t have a weapon - and giving him time to use it.”
If I’ve already got my weapon trained on him, it’s not much of a gamble.
“Then when the guy comes at him - reasonable to assume he’s an intruder and has the right to protect himself and daughter.”
Meh, the father says he came at him, but we have no other witnesses to confirm that. Anybody who just shot someone in a case of mistaken identity might conjure up such a tale. Police do it all the time.
Did he shoot him in the crouch?
I have never snuck into a girl’s house without her parents knowing it.
There it is the “intruder’s” fault for putting himself in a situation he knew was dangerous. Did he not think it dangerous he would not have been crouching in the corner.
“Unless he came through the front door at the invitation of the person who answered the door, he was an intruder...”
Wrong. If he was invited by an adult resident of the home, he wasn’t an intruder, no matter where he entered the home.
“Did Dad tell her previously that she could not have men in her room? If he did, the guy was an intruder.”
Wrong again. If he was invited by an adult resident of the home, he wasn’t an intruder, regardless of what the “house rules” were.
Just to demonstrate how your thinking is wrong, consider if the police came to the house, and sought entry without a warrant. It would not matter if the father gave the daughter permission to let police in the house or not, as long as an adult invited the police in, their entry would be completely lawful.
Sure, he bears some responsibility, but the daughter bears more responsibility for inviting him and not telling her father.
As for the crouching, we don’t know why he was crouching there, since he’s dead and can’t tell his side of the story. For all we know, he may not have known who the father was and just saw a strange man with a gun who he was hiding from.
Do editors understand English any more? or they all illegal immigrants now?
Editing has been outsourced to Pakistan. Please to have a good day, Sir!
I suppose you would have said, “Excuse me, sir,” and then sent in a bottle of wine.
Absolutely. Besides not wanting to arbitrarily kill innocent people. Even then, some who are not innocent don't warrant getting killed. I have a nephew, when he was 12 fell in with the wrong crowd. Older teens talked him into sneaking through a garage window to open the door for them to burglarize the garage. Lights come on, and he's staring at the business end of the owner's revolver. Owner tells him to sit on the concrete floor, and owner calls the police. Nephew did some time in juvenile lockup. Went straight after that, never any more trouble and is now in his late twenties married with two kids. That owner didn't automatically fire at my nephew, otherwise my sister would've cried over a loss of her 12-year-old son.
I've had guns shoved in my face, and am glad I wasn't shot. One time me and my girlfriend are parked, and some drunk black guy banged hard into my car while trying to park behind me. I jumped out, grabbed his neck by the collar giving him the 3rd degree. Was about to deck him when his black girlfriend yells at me to let him go, she's standing six feet away pointing a revolver at my head, and her hands were shaking… a lot. Let go of the guy, told her we're cool and I'm leaving. Next day, I parked across the street. Black gal comes up to me asking how I'm doing, and we had a friendly chat, all's fine. Sometimes people make mistakes and shoot others in the heat of the moment. Other times people choose their targets wisely and defuse the situation. Congrats to you for being wise.
Did you two remain friends afterwards?
That is nice she opted not to shoot you despite her boyfriend being in danger. Good story.
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