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Is Saturated Fat Good for You?
The Epoch Times ^ | September 5, 2014 | Andrea Donsky

Posted on 09/06/2014 11:01:50 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: Varda

I can’t eat a lot of carbs because I also have low blood sugar. Double fatigue whammy. Can’t take auto-immune fighters cause I need to keep my immune system active.


41 posted on 09/07/2014 7:04:07 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: nickcarraway

I’ve had a physician buddy that has said this for years and I’ve followed HIS advice.

He is also rapidly against statins.


42 posted on 09/07/2014 7:07:20 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: driftless2

I’ll bet many of those oldies ate a lot of meat and dairy products.

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But not from “factory” farms. The animals were pasture-raised. Also, these people did not grow up eating all of the processed foods that are available today.


43 posted on 09/07/2014 7:18:12 AM PDT by Bigg Red (31 May 2014: Obamugabe officially declares the USA a vanquished subject of the Global Caliphate.)
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To: traderrob6

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44 posted on 09/07/2014 7:49:32 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: nickcarraway
Last year I got hit by two forces which increased my weight:

1. Major foot problems and major surgery last September which has taken about a year to get 90% recovery and to be able to start walking a mile to two each day.

2. High cholesterol levels and a push by my Family doc to go on his recommended diet of high complex carbs and minimal meat.

I went from walking at least a mile a day to minimal walking. In 6-8 months, I gained over 40 pounds and didn't feel good, and I was hungry most of the day.

Then, I started reading the medical literature and talking to others, who had been where I had been and was. Those who went on a paleo diet or a modified Atkins diet lost weight and kept it off. Over the decades everyone we know who have been on the expensive diet plans or on their own have been on weight gain/loss see saws. Usually in a couple years, they have regained their original weight loss and a lot more. Plus they are/were miserable and hungry most of the time.

In July, I started a modified Paleo diet with good meat, smoked sockeye salmon for breakfast and ocean sockeye or king salmon for dinner with a protein from chicken, beef or pork for lunch.

One of our younger relatives is a great bow hunter, and he has kept us supplied with elk, deer and wild/feral pig. These meats are very satisfying and 5-6 ounces make a very satisfying meal.

I charcoal a 1# pork tenderloin about once a week, and we eat a lamb chop about ever 2 weeks. Salmon is still our main protein with chicken a couple a times a week. We have elk/deer/wild pig a couple of times a week, If possible, I charcoal our meats, game,fish, chicken and vegetables. If I can't my wife fixes a combo veggie/meat or fish tray in her convection oven.

My wife has a good mini garden, we have a wonderful SE Asian family that sells fresh fruits, berries and veggies. I eat their produce several times a day.

Bread with the 20-50 ingredients has been eliminated. I eat about two whole grain thin buns a day.

I eliminated my 1-2 micro beers a day and replaced it with about 4-6 ounces of local red wine. That and not eating the great tasting local breads were the toughest challenges at first. Now it isn't a problem, and we keep good micro beer in our frig for relatives and friends who like a good beer.

Oleo was replaced by real butter. I eat 4-6 local farm raised eggs a week. Sometimes my wife will hard boil some eggs, and they become an afternoon snack, if I want a snack.

For desert we have a 80 to 90% dark chocolate 1-2 oz mini bar and of course the wonderful fruit, and a small bowl of ice cream about 2 every two weeks.

I gave up Cheerios, granola bars and other carbs that were supposedly healthy. I now eat the excellent local corn 3-6 times a week and if no corn, small new potatoes, again from a local grower. The corn sugar replacements are avoided like a plague.

After the second week, I have never been hungry enough that a handful of walnuts with a small serving of yogurt or a hard boiled egg didn't tide me over. I, also, buy local made jerky for the days pre or post honey dos.

In two weeks I had dropped twenty pounds and got back to walking again. A couple of weeks after walking again, I lost another 10 pounds. The weight loss has helped me to walk with minimal if any discomfort. I'm increasing my walking distance each week and adding more hill climbing each week.

After two months of this routine, my weight loss is slower now. I'm still losing 1-2 #’s per week, and I have lost the 40# gained pre and post foot surgery.

This August, I had a complete lab workup. Most levels of fat measurement are down 30 to 50%. This was after about a month of my diet and exercise programs.

My C-Reactive Protein, a cardiac event predictor was down to .16. The C-Reactive Protein test measures the levels of inflammation in our blood. High levels of inflammation are probably better predictors of a heart attack than the so call high levels of fats.

My heart rate was down from the mid to high 80s to 70 with a good bp.

I also had an Echo Cardiogram. Last year I had a new murmur, and my new cardiologist wanted an Echo again in a year.

He couldn't find the murmur with the new results. He was at a loss to explain. Now instead of a new Echogram each year, I will get one in two years. He will see me in a year, and if I continue with my trend that will go to every two years. He tried to sell me on a statin and failed.

I will be 76 in a few months, and I feel better than I have in over a decade.

With the exception of a serious reduction of carbs, my diet is what my RN wife calls, one of moderation.

45 posted on 09/07/2014 7:50:16 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Holder & his black racist thugs have started another Black Washing in Ferguson.)
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To: nickcarraway

The pendulum swings back and forth, not that it has anything to do with any facts but to bring attention to these people who are dependent on Government funding which they have become dependent on for their careers.


46 posted on 09/07/2014 8:24:25 AM PDT by ravenwolf (nd)
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To: nickcarraway; RegulatorCountry

“Are you saying that animal protein and fat have been unfairly maligned, that idea went out of favor a long time ago. “

The science may not support it, but the government still does. Many doctors will still tell you to go on a low fat diet and take medicine if your cholesterol is too high...with too high being a figure that seems to get lower all the time.

“KEY RECOMMENDATIONS

Consume less than 10 percent of calories from saturated fatty acids and less than 300 mg/day of cholesterol, and keep trans fatty acid consumption as low as possible.

Keep total fat intake between 20 to 35 percent of calories, with most fats coming from sources of polyunsaturated and monounsaturated fatty acids, such as fish, nuts, and vegetable oils.

When selecting and preparing meat, poultry, dry beans, and milk or milk products, make choices that are lean, low-fat, or fat-free.

Limit intake of fats and oils high in saturated and/or trans fatty acids, and choose products low in such fats and oils.

Consume less than 300 mg per day of dietary cholesterol.”

http://www.health.gov/dietaryguidelines/dga2005/document/html/chapter6.htm

“The Dietary Guidelines for Americans describe a healthy diet as one that:

• Emphasizes fruits, vegetables, whole grains, and fat-free or low-fat milk and milk products;
• Includes lean meats, poultry, fish, beans, eggs, and nuts; and
• Is low in saturated fats, trans fats, cholesterol, salt (sodium), and added sugars.

The recommendations in the Dietary Guidelines and in MyPlate are for the general public over 2 years of age.”

http://www.choosemyplate.gov/dietary-guidelines.html

If you trust the US Government, you’ll never touch butter or bacon again...but I’ve lost weight and lowered my blood pressure more than my medicine did by eating both.


47 posted on 09/07/2014 8:45:57 AM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: tiki

About Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine (PCRM).

“The Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine (PCRM), is a left-wing organization that has been linked to radical animal rights groups. Less than 5% of its members are actually doctors. The American Medical Association has called their nutritional advice “blatantly misleading”, and said that they intentionally misinterpret research, impugning the reputation of these researchers. The PCRM is opposed to the use of animals for medical research and advocates a strict vegetarian diet.

“The PCRM is partially funded by $430,000 from the Foundation to Support Animal Protection, a group co-founded by the president of PETA. Last year, the PCRM joined with PETA in a suit brought against the Environmental Protection Agency.

“This is a technique by which radical groups get court decisions in their favor, by suing Obama administration agencies, which do not challenge their lawsuit, and use it as justification to create radical and oppressive regulations never considered and objectionable to congress.”


48 posted on 09/07/2014 8:52:17 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: Grampa Dave

My goal is to eat more like folks did in the 50s - include fats, don’t worry about meat, and reduce portions to amounts that keep me functioning until it is time to eat again.

I find eliminating most of the breads and pasta and sugars works well for reducing cravings. My weight is down, my pant sizes are down, I’m running further and not getting headaches. My blood pressure has dropped to a lower level than I got using 160 mg of Micardis.

I don’t worry about eating carbs, but I limit my portions to much smaller than typical of Americans. I eat any meat or veggies I want, with a pat of butter on my veggies. The number of calories I take in has gone down without the headaches and cravings I had before.

If this is ‘bad’, so be it! Why would we be shocked that the US Government has gotten it wrong?


49 posted on 09/07/2014 8:59:11 AM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: southern rock

Kind of ironic that you talk about logic when you claim that olive oil is bad for you because it’s (gasp) a fat.


51 posted on 09/07/2014 9:44:14 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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To: SamAdams76

Good points but I think Reeses cups may fall on the more natural side of the line. Minimally processed peanut butter — I see no mention of hydrogenation in the ingredients list — and regular old milk chocolate. That’s all they are. I actually consider them to be one of the healthier candy bar type snacks.


52 posted on 09/07/2014 10:03:40 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: CatherineofAragon

I’m just curious, where did he claim olive oil is bad for you? Many people think olive oil is beneficial for you, because of the type of oil it is. But there are some who claim it is bad for you, because of the type of olive oil, or because it’s a plant. Either way, it does have a low smoke point, so it’s best not cooked above that.


53 posted on 09/07/2014 10:52:11 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: octex

I’m like you. I prefer just plain ole ordinary Spam.


54 posted on 09/07/2014 10:59:54 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (It's a shame nobama truly doesn't care about any of this. Our country, our future, he doesn't care)
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To: nickcarraway; southern rock
"I’m just curious, where did he claim olive oil is bad for you? Many people think olive oil is beneficial for you, because of the type of oil it is. But there are some who claim it is bad for you, because of the type of olive oil, or because it’s a plant. Either way, it does have a low smoke point, so it’s best not cooked above that."

Well, I think the benefits have been pretty well established; even the Mayo Clinic touts its benefits. But you're right about the low smoke point. Coconut oil is good in that respect.

And for the answer to your question:

post #99

55 posted on 09/07/2014 11:48:20 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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To: Mr Rogers

Your eating plan is where I’m basically at.

In the late 1990’s we spent some time in the Devon/Cornwall area of Britain, where a lot of my ancestors came from.

No one who lived in that area was over weight. They ate a good breakfast, a good lunch at a pub and whatever they wanted for dinner. Deserts were real deserts with a topping of Devon Clotted Cream.

They walked, rod bikes and did work with their bodies.

After the Devon experience we spent a week in London. Basically all Londoners reqard less of race were overweight.


56 posted on 09/07/2014 12:38:21 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Holder & his black racist thugs have started another Black Washing in Ferguson.)
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To: CatherineofAragon; nickcarraway
Kind of ironic that you talk about logic when you claim that olive oil is bad for you because it’s (gasp) a fat.

No, I sad it is bad for you because it is 100% pure fat. It is not natural. It is an extraction of just fat. I have no problem with fat in whole foods. I love avocadoes, but I eat them whole, I don't extract their oil. I love almond and peanut butter, but I don't simply drink the oil that floats at the top of the jar, and discard the rest. Sugar extractions in the form of juice are equally bad, which is why I blend rather than juice. It's whole vs. extraction.

57 posted on 09/07/2014 2:56:25 PM PDT by southern rock
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To: CatherineofAragon

Sorry, I didn’t see the post.


58 posted on 09/07/2014 3:01:33 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: CatherineofAragon

On a side note, you can’t really trust any of the studies. Because there are a lot of studies out there that are completely contradictory.


59 posted on 09/07/2014 3:02:43 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: southern rock
"No, I sad it is bad for you because it is 100% pure fat. It is not natural. It is an extraction of just fat. I have no problem with fat in whole foods. I love avocadoes, but I eat them whole, I don't extract their oil. I love almond and peanut butter, but I don't simply drink the oil that floats at the top of the jar, and discard the rest."

Nor do people swig olive oil from the bottle like a fifth of Ripple, but if you in your zeal would prefer to believe so, go right ahead. You listen to those vegan gurus you follow, and I'll have a nice juicy piece of meat.

60 posted on 09/07/2014 4:48:18 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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