Posted on 08/15/2014 4:23:28 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
I have heard repeatedly....ad nauseam...that Mr. Brown was an UNARMED TEEN.
Completely missing is the context. Be truthful, media. He was unarmed, according to reports, because he was unable to take the gun away from the police officer.
My thoughts are this ... legally it does not matter. I Prosecuted for 25 years. At the moment the teen walked off and ESPECIALLY had his hands in the air, when the cop shot him it was murder pure and simple.
Now are the LibTards trying to make this kid look “innocent”? Sure. But it is a hands down, slam dunk manslaughter charge at a minimum. My Office would have charged 2nd Degree murder without batting an eye.
My point, which perhaps I wasn’t very good in making, was that the media I have seen emphasizes the “unarmed teen” notion without even giving a NOD to why he was unarmed....Taking an officer’s gun could also be assault, and the police officer apparently had facial injuries and needed to get medical treatment....but none of this has been pursued or reported....
I guess what I am wanting is BALANCE in journalism....at least until all the facts and context of the event in question are known.
The people of Barry Township allowed it to happen in the first place but I’m guessing they’ll be more vigilant in the future.
Police not releasing their evidence to the media doesn’t mean it has not been released to the prosecutor.
What police HAVE said is that Brown was not behaving lawfully, and tried to take the gun. We also have learned the cop had facial injuries and was treated at a hospital.
Why are the police not releasing evidence to prove their case,such as the officer’s injury report and forensic evidence of the shot fired inside the squad car?
A 6’4”, 300 pound male Perp of prime physical age of 18, with two big fists to use, is not an unarmed man.
Let me apply the same basic litmus that I always do, i.e.
What would happen if I shot and killed someone under similar circumstances as the cop?
If a kid breaks into my car, we struggle, and I shoot him in the back as he runs away, will I get prosecuted or not?
I believe the operative words concerning me would be, “Was the kid a threat at the time that I shot him?”
Now the police are generally allowed to use deadly force to keep dangerous criminals from fleeing (can shoot a rapist in the back, can’t shoot a shoplifter in the back). What was this kid’s initial crime?
Everything then hinges on the word of the cop. I used to instinctively go with the cop, but not so much anymore.
Let me apply the same basic litmus test that I always do, i.e. What would happen if I shot and killed someone under similar circumstances as the cop?
If a kid breaks into my car, we struggle, and I shoot him in the back as he runs away, will I get prosecuted or not?
I believe the operative words concerning me would be, “Was the kid a threat at the time that I shot him?”
Now the police are generally allowed to use deadly force to keep dangerous criminals from fleeing (can shoot a rapist in the back, can’t shoot a shoplifter in the back). What was this kid’s initial crime?
Everything then hinges on the word of the cop. I used to instinctively go with the cop, but not so much anymore.
I get that point and it’s a valid point, Most police forces have not done themselves any favors by militarizing and repeatedly violating people’s rights and denying them due process.
My whole problem with this is... I dont know what happened! I dont trust any of the eye witness or police accounts, to be honest, I am hoping someone somewhere has a video. In lieu of that, perhaps some forensic detail (shot in the back, etc) would help.
None of the facts as we know them make a lot of sense.
I’m sure cops aren’t trained to grab people through their car window. That makes no sense, especially if the person is 300 pounds.
How would one reach inside the car to take the cops’ gun? That would be quite difficult to do unless the cop is asleep.
Why would the cop keep shooting when the kid stopped running and held his hands in the air like witnesses claimed?
The female witness, Tiffany Mitchell sounded fairly credible, but I’m sure she was coached by her lawyer.
That’s what I heard in the earliest reports, too.
FWIW.
Unless the lawyers held a mass conference and coached every single witness and ensured a cohesive story, it’s most likely the witnesses are telling the truth.
Even the black witnesses state he was in the car fighting with the cop. That part of the story seems to jell.
While unarmed has no bearing on threat levels, shooting one in the back, numerous times, and then leaving the dead body in the street, uncovered, for 15 hours, is problematic if those reports are true.
I’m left thinking about how far our society has fallen when all the institutions that made it great are now failing and under suspicion.
Marriage, patriotism, family, faith, authority, politicians, virtue, the military. I’m sure I left a few out.
These institutions have been successfully undermined and nearly destroyed, leaving us on the brink of complete chaos.
That is absolutely false. They ALL state Brown was not in the car but was engaged in a struggle through the window but that Brown was clearly outside of the car.
Having been a cop leaving a body at the scene is not unusual. A thorough investigation has to be made and that takes time.
I doubt there is a video that gives creedence to the so called “witnesses” who have run to the tv networks.
Everyone has cell phone camera, even in Ferguson...but NO ONE has video of this, apparently. Of course it is POSSIBLE the cops have electronic evidence...they likely have turned that over to authorities.
My point is there is no or little BALANCE in media coverage.
Question the cops? Sure. But there has been precious little scrutiny of the claims of those alleging police abuse....I think that is from bias and/or fear of being accused of “racism”.
15 HOURS UNCOVERED is NOT S.O.P.
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