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To: snarkybob
I see it as a series of very complex interacting and often non-linear models. Sometimes you pull out or add a piece here and there, and the consequences end up being a LOT different from what you thought would happen.”

Not sure what this has to do with the pot laws, unless it’s like I suspect and the pot issue is a moral issue for you and you’re equating pot use with welfare abuse.

There is certainly a lot of overlap between pot users and welfare at the bottom end of the scale.

You also seem to be making it more complex than it really is to support your position that weed is bad so there should be a law.

I'm saying that the philosophical arguments which justify it's legalization do not restrict themselves to just pot. If you embrace those arguments (that smoking it is a right) you open Pandora box to all the rest as well.

You may think you are pulling down one small Chesterton fence.(pot) You are not. You are pulling down a very large and important Chesterton fence (all other drugs) because it is attached to that small one.

146 posted on 08/11/2014 7:13:58 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp; snarkybob
I'm saying that the philosophical arguments which justify it's legalization do not restrict themselves to just pot. If you embrace those arguments (that smoking it is a right) you open Pandora box to all the rest as well.

Then there's the practical argument that marijuana prohibition seems to be failing in pretty much the same ways that alcohol Prohibition failed.

148 posted on 08/11/2014 8:11:38 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

“There is certainly a lot of overlap between pot users and welfare at the bottom end of the scale.”

There’s also a lot of overlap between beer, and cigarettes, and xbox, and fastfood cheeseburgers, with welfare at the bottom end of the scale.
Pot doesn’t make anybody do anything, or not do anything. Neither does beer, cigarettes, xbox, or cheeseburgers.

“You may think you are pulling down one small Chesterton fence.(pot) You are not. You are pulling down a very large and important Chesterton fence (all other drugs) because it is attached to that small one.”

Pot is pot. It’s not heroin, or meth.
As near as I can tell there isn’t any realistic push to get those things legalized.

It also seems to me that the bigger Chesterson Fence would be passing freedom killing laws that turn pretty typical citizens into criminals just to prevent them from doing something you morally disagree with.


153 posted on 08/11/2014 9:35:02 AM PDT by snarkybob
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