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Marlins fume after new home-plate collision rule helps Reds get a win
yahoo sports ^ | 8-1-14 | Mike Oz

Posted on 08/01/2014 6:09:08 AM PDT by FlJoePa

From manager Mike Redmond after the game:

"To lose a ballgame tonight on that play is a joke. It's an absolute joke. I don't think anybody who plays this game should feel good about winning that game. And I would say that if had been reversed. That guy was out by 15 feet. It was a great baseball play. G threw a strike to Matty. He was out by 15 feet. He didn't slide because he couldn't slide because he was out by so far. And yet those guys in New York decided the outcome of that game ...

"No doubt we have some grinders out there in this clubhouse. To look at them in the face and say we lost the game on a technicality is [B.S.]. Absolutely [B.S.]. I'm so [upset]. Like I said I played this game for so long. I've given this game everything I've had as a player and a manager. What a joke. What a [freaking] joke. That's ridiculous."

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Video at site will blow you away - the fact that the runner was called safe and continued the inning.

Just a giant FAIL for MLB. Stupid rule all centered around a sissy catcher that got hurt a few years ago.

Fix it. Now!

1 posted on 08/01/2014 6:09:08 AM PDT by FlJoePa
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To: FlJoePa

This happened earlier this month when a Texas Ranger’s catcher crossed from foul to fair just inf front of the plate, caught the ball and swiped the runner out. They called the rule because I guess he went across the foul line. All BS.


2 posted on 08/01/2014 6:16:05 AM PDT by mfish13 (Elections have Consequences.)
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To: FlJoePa

http://www.johnspeedie.com/healy/opinion.wav


3 posted on 08/01/2014 6:17:46 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: FlJoePa
Just a giant FAIL for MLB. Stupid rule all centered around a sissy catcher that got hurt a few years ago.

It was more than on single minor injury and Alex Avila is still the toughest catcher in the game.
4 posted on 08/01/2014 6:17:47 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: cripplecreek

It’s called the “Buster Posey” rule for a reason.


5 posted on 08/01/2014 6:20:05 AM PDT by FlJoePa
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To: FlJoePa

I don’t think there’s any dispute whatsoever. the runner had no place to slide.

On the other hand, not sure what the catcher could do? Catch the ball up field then come back?

Absolutely rediculous rule, but no doubt the runner is safe because the catcher did not allow a clear path to the runner.


6 posted on 08/01/2014 6:22:08 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: BenLurkin

Check out the video. Austin Jackson was traded in the middle of the 7th inning yesterday. Yanked right off the field then and there.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-tigers-fans-austin-jackson-standing-ovation-trade-20140731-htmlstory.html


7 posted on 08/01/2014 6:24:27 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: nikos1121

When the runner is out by 15 feet, there isn’t much reason for leaving a “path to the runner”.


8 posted on 08/01/2014 6:28:27 AM PDT by FlJoePa
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To: FlJoePa

Diamondbacks got bit by this dumbass rule earlier this week too. It’s stupid. MLB needs to dump this one.


9 posted on 08/01/2014 6:32:22 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (America is not a refugee camp! It is my home!!!)
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To: FlJoePa

True, and I see it the umpires agreed. The guy was so out that he didn’t try to slide, but then again he could have purposely rehearsed that.


10 posted on 08/01/2014 6:33:25 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: FlJoePa
The only problem is that home-plate collisions are NOT allowed in high school and NCAA college baseball and is often frowned upon in the minor leagues. MLB should have banned home plate collisions after what happened to Ray Fosse at the 1970 MLB All-Star Game.
11 posted on 08/01/2014 6:43:55 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: nikos1121

Ironic because at a 11-12 yr olds game this summer the kid crossed home plate standing up, he had the throw beat by a mile, and he got thrown out of the game for NOT sliding.


12 posted on 08/01/2014 6:47:57 AM PDT by heylady
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To: RayChuang88

OK...then mandate feet first sliding.

Ironically, in the Cousins/Posey collision of 2011, it would be Posey that would have been in violation of the current rule.

The onus needs to be on the base runner, not the catcher. The catcher is in a defensive position (trying to secure the ball and tag the runner).


13 posted on 08/01/2014 6:48:06 AM PDT by FlJoePa
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http://nesn.com/2014/08/marlins-lose-on-home-plate-collision-review-mlb-to-look-over-rule-video/

more video and tweets from Redmond and MLB. looks like MLB will be reviewing


14 posted on 08/01/2014 6:49:26 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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Not much to review as the game is in the history books. The Marlins got to .500 then went out and traded some good prospects for a quality starter. This was their reward for trying to find their way to the playoffs.


15 posted on 08/01/2014 6:52:41 AM PDT by FlJoePa
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To: RayChuang88
Meh.

I miss the old days.


These modern guys would soil themselves if they had to face someone like Ty Cobb. He would've killed* to win a game.


*He filed his spikes until they were razor sharp

16 posted on 08/01/2014 7:00:39 AM PDT by Bratch
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To: FlJoePa
The onus needs to be on the base runner, not the catcher.

Yup. Nothing's stopping him from trying to get back to third base.
17 posted on 08/01/2014 7:00:42 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("If you're litigating against nuns, you've probably done something wrong."-Ted Cruz)
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To: nikos1121; All

“Absolutely (rediculous) rule, but no doubt the runner is safe because the catcher did not allow a clear path to the runner.”
Why isn’t that rule also applied to second and third bases, also?
I also have seen a first baseman standing with ball in hand tag the runner, in the runner’s path! This prevented the runner from having a clear path to the bag.
Another play that was not reviewable was when a Red’s Batter attempted to bunt and ball hit him when he was out of the Batter’s box. Should have been called out. First Base Umpire should have made call., plate umpire was blocked from seeing ball making contact. Play is not REVIEWABLE! Why not?
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Not the first time MLB F”D up, on Rule 7:13!
http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/11129670/mlb-adjusts-rule-home-plate-collisions-controversy


18 posted on 08/01/2014 7:00:46 AM PDT by GOYAKLA (Waiting for the Golden Screw to be removed from Obama's navel and his a$$ falls off!)
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To: nikos1121

“On the other hand, not sure what the catcher could do? Catch the ball up field then come back?”

I have never understood this rule too well. What does a first baseman do when the throw is into the runner up the line? I guess he can choose to stick his arm out into the runner and risk breaking it, or let it go and risk having it go into the seats. So if runs are so important and that 2 out single will drive in a run, why don’t you see first basemen setting up in front of the plate like catchers on infield dribblers where the play is at first?

Freegards


19 posted on 08/01/2014 7:05:03 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: Ransomed

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs2004/news/story?id=1905510

Good read!

Freegards backatcha


20 posted on 08/01/2014 7:13:45 AM PDT by GOYAKLA (Waiting for the Golden Screw to be removed from Obama's navel and his a$$ falls off!)
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