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To: blueplum
Horseshit!

Spin all you want. A pro-life person doesn't need the tests as they are certain to give birth anyway.

The 2% are what? Rape? Incest? Of course an abortion for this is a conspiracy and in most situations the abortionist is acting as an accomplice after the fact. He is a murderer anyway, so conspiracy to rape is hardly a big deal.

My wife has had five children. The first and fifth where completely normal all over 35 three over 40. We went through all the tests on the first two. After all the worry about our second with all his problems. Yet, none where uncovered by amniocenteses. No more than an ultrasound was necessary to determine he had problems. And ultrasound is noninvasive. Spontaneous abortion (Miscarriage) is around 1 in 300.and up to 1 -100 for older women. So why bother?

Even on the twins only an ultrasound. No need to do more as we would certainly not abort. After the response our OB/GYN got from my wife and I after the termination talk for Douglas, they knew better than to bring it up.

As per pre-pregnancy genetic testing, it is useless as to whether any individual child would get Down’s syndrome. Post pregnancy testing is simply to kill the imperfect. There is no other reason for it. That is abortion for convenience straight up. No way to sugar coat it. Complete cowardice, nothing more.

BTW: You don't need any of that crap for a Down’s Syndrome child. Particularly in the first year. They are just like any other baby, completely helpless and easy to transport. Home modifications?, Lined up therapists? All that crap comes AFTER birth. Until the child comes, there is nothing to evaluate so there is no plan of action. The first time you meet any of these people is AFTER the child is born alive.

As for the difficult pregnancy. There is no more difficulty in carrying a Downs child to birth than any other. The actual pregnancy is generally uneventful. It is after the birth that things can get difficult. Not much more than an unexpected Congenital Heart Disorder and those are undiagnosed DAILY in utero.

People get hit by cars, break their necks in pools and become handicapped every day. They get cancer and some children are born after all the tests and plans only to have an undiagnosed heart disorder. Are we then free to eliminate them as they have become a net financial loss? An inconvenience to be sure.

Your point is simple. As simple as I said. You think some people are more worthy of life than others. Simple. just like your mind!

63 posted on 07/24/2014 6:30:26 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Jim from C-Town

*The 2% are what? Rape? Incest? Of course an abortion for this is a conspiracy *

All rapes are a conspiracy? now you don’t really mean that. You’re just upset at me.

Genetic counseling is important because some ethnic groups have a higher incidence of DS pregnancies, especially in those over age 35 (mexican versus African versus Islander versus Asian versus White, and then subgroups amongst them).

Physical therapy is also recommended for DS infants. Here’s a short article:

“Early physical therapy makes a decisive difference in the long-term functional outcome of the child with DS...”

http://ds-health.com/physther.htm

Marriage counseling is recommended at first positive sonogram. Family therapy with siblings also recommended, especially if one is not fortunate enough to have a relatively healthy DS baby.

A DS positive pregnancy shouldn’t be kept a secret from the father or from the siblings. It’s not just the mother who needs time to mentally prepare for the challenge, it’s the entire family.

Thanks for describing your family. I can read that you love them very, very much.

Sorry I upset you, FRiend. God Bless.


66 posted on 07/24/2014 11:32:25 PM PDT by blueplum
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