[SpeakerToAnimals]

And then you add to it that the cars all look the same. And absolutely NOTHING like what's on the road. Hard to build brand loyalty when you can't tell the brands apart.

You nailed it. I used to have a 1970 Torino with the 429 CJ engine. The car was designed for NASCAR. The 1970 Fords on the track were just like mine, gutted and caged.

Toyota never built a pushrod V-8, but they race one in "stock car racing". All the cars have identical chassis. There is nothing stock in NASCAR.

That is why folks like me quit watching many years ago.

[gura]

There's still stock car racing in the US, it's just called the Continental Sports Car series.

[ZirconEncrustedTweezers]

“You nailed it. I used to have a 1970 Torino with the 429 CJ engine. The car was designed for NASCAR. The 1970 Fords on the track were just like mine, gutted and caged.”

Well, sort of. NASCAR’s cars of that era used the stock bodywork, but tube-framed cars began appearing in NASCAR around the mid-’60s.