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To: ConservingFreedom
I very much doubt you've read any of those studies, and if you think i'm going to wade through them you are nuts.

It's easy to post a mountain of crap and then allege that it supports you and that it's non-biased. The other side has to weigh through all that crap and look up sources to refute it.

It simply isn't worth the time or trouble because it won't make the slightest dent on your opinion if your studies are challenged or disproved or shown to be biased or from biased sources.

Again, this isn't about Cancer, this is about using "Cancer" (really Pot) research as a tool to push for smoking.

If any of that crap is true, time will bear it out. I have time. I'll wait.

52 posted on 07/23/2014 2:55:21 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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Anyone who wants to educate themselves do some searching on the Endocannabiniod System, there is lots of scientific information on it on internet, youtube has some good videos. Endocannabinoids are protein compounds produced in our bodies and directly connected to our immune system and it’s effectiveness in countering disease in our bodies. These endocannabinoids are transferred into our organs and brains via specialized receptors named CB1 and CB2 receptors. The effectiveness of our immune system in the different organs and our brains is dependent on these endocannbinoids.

Phytocannabinoids which are found in the cannabis plant also fit into and pass through these CB1 and CB2 receptors and help boost our immune system both in preventing disease and removing disease at the cell molecular level.

The cannabis plant has 70 different types of cannabinoids only one THC is psychoactive (gets you high). THC is produced by heating THCv a natural cannabinoid found in the cannabis plant that is not psychoactive. That is why those wants to get high smoke it / burn it/ heat it, the THCv is converted to THC. Medical cannabis oil can be taken without getting high and there are hundreds of scientific studies from medical researchers from around the world showing the effectiveness of medical cannabis, especially against auto-immune diseases like cancers, arthritis, crohn’s, diabetes, Schizophrenia, Lou Gehrig’s disease. Also Parkinson’s, Alzheimers and other dementia diseases. the Israeli’s are miles ahead of the rest the world in understanding the endocanninboid system and the beneficial connection using the Phytocannabinoids found in the cannabis plant.

Thousands of Israeli’s are treated in the Israel hospitals and medical programs with cannabinoids, these are very smart people using science to help sick people and in many cases beat disease using this plant medicine. Spanish are probably in second and other European countries next. The US has the scientific studies and is starting to get the political will to fight against the powerful interests opposed to use this plant for medicine.

Chemical medicine, pharmaceuticals do more damage than good in many people’s opinions including mine. Hundreds of thousands of deaths per year and millions of diseases result from pharmaceuticals. Did you know chemotherapy drugs cause cancer? That is a fact, ask an Oncologist, he or she may try not to answer directly but if you press they know it to be the truth. Chemo drugs have a 2.3% survival rate and in fact kill more people than cancer. 75% of US Oncologists surveyed say they would not use chemo or radiation if they had cancer. Chemo drugs provide the largest portion of big phrama profits which totals over a trillion $ a year.

I figure God knew what He was doing when He gave us plants including for our health. I consider most pharmaceuticals (phramakeia witchcraft according to bible) to be poison.

Genesis 1:29 God said, “Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit. You shall have them for food.

BTW, I think getting intoxicated on any drug is just plain dumb including pot and alcohol, but I don’t want either of them criminalized nor do I think free people should be thrown in jail for what they put in their own bodies.


53 posted on 07/23/2014 4:56:48 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: DiogenesLamp
I very much doubt you've read any of those studies, and if you think i'm going to wade through them you are nuts.

They are the citations given by the National Cancer Institute (at http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/cannabis/healthprofessional/page4#Section_26) for the antitumor effects of marijuana's active components. Will you be claiming that the National Cancer Institute is all about legalizing pot?

Again, this isn't about Cancer, this is about using "Cancer" (really Pot) research as a tool to push for smoking.

And you know this although you haven't and won't look at any of the studies. Very impressive.

It simply isn't worth the time or trouble because it won't make the slightest dent on your opinion if your studies are challenged or disproved or shown to be biased or from biased sources.

It's my opinion you're focused on? You think too small - any FReeper in search of insight can read this thread. I'm making available facts, while you're making available your self-contained reality where all evidence presented for the medical benefits of marijuana is deemed unreliable because it's been presented as evidence the medical benefits of marijuana.

55 posted on 07/24/2014 6:17:47 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: DiogenesLamp; All
All I know is that weed saved my life while the chemo and radiation was trying to kill me. Smoking a puff allowed me to drink water without puking. Before that I puked up bile every 20 minutes or so, and when they put me in the hospital for round the clock fluids, I got a bad infection from the germy hospital.

I talked my way out of the hospital and a friend brought over some weed. Everything changed after that.

I don't know about THC helping to shrink tumors, but they only gave me a 60-40 chance of surviving. The treatment surely would have killed me long before the cancer got the chance. Nasty stuff.

That was 5 years ago.

If you or anyone you know finds themselves facing cancer treatment, get your hands on some weed and a vaporizer. The "high" was unpleasant to me, but I considered it to be a side effect much like the side effects of other useful drugs.

I know this is not the main topic of the thread, but maybe someone reading will be helped by my experience.

82 posted on 07/25/2014 9:54:30 AM PDT by Semper911 (When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
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