Posted on 07/18/2014 1:04:10 PM PDT by PoloSec
That's odd, as you saw nothing wrong with this incident and suggested on June 18 in post #2, he killed himself due to being overweight. Your mind was made up way back then. Support agents of the government regardless. Remember? I had you dialed in.
Now those who caused his sudden death go into slander mode, as you parrot it, attempting to bring up his past, using the media to broadcast his past loitering and past minor arrest, as if it had anything to do with this incident or man's death. Why did you do that? It's what the media told ya to do right?
It's OK to discredit the victim by digging up his past in an effort to make him look like the guilty party? You have now parroted his past and brought it up multiple times.
Is it also OK to discredit NYC due to it's past corruption?
How about the mountain of police corruption, the endless lies, bad shooting, bad cops, bribes, and endless falsified police reports and falsified court testimony wideawake?
Who is guilty of more serious crimes and corruption by a series of magnitudes wideawake? Would it be Eric Garner or New York City and their police department?
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Correct.
And our new information confirms my original assessment.
he killed himself due to being overweight
Which turns out to be accurate.
attempting to bring up his past
The guy's a career criminal, not a helpless innocent.
Why did you do that?
It provides context. Being arrested wasn't some kind of shocking new stressor for him - he'd been there and done that many times.
Is it also OK to discredit NYC due to it's past corruption?
Feel free to make any excuses for Gardner that you want.
Al Sharpton is way ahead of you.
Who is guilty of more serious crimes and corruption by a series of magnitudes wideawake? Would it be Eric Garner or New York City and their police department?
You had no problem bringing up the victims background. What's up with the double standard wideawake?
When was that, exactly?
Any good historical examples of such grand juries convened without judicial oversight?
The mechanics of that would be very interesting to analyze.
Who is guilty of more serious crimes and corruption by a series of magnitudes wideawake? Would it be Eric Garner or New York City and their police department?
By the way, who is investigating this event? Would it be NYPD and others who happen to work for the same city?
Why do you think you had a coherent question to answer?
Mr. Gardner's family, in their lucrative financial quest, can bring up any historical malfeasance by the NYPD in whatever forum they want.
You had no problem bringing up the victims background. What's up with the double standard wideawake?
As I've said twice now: the Gardners, Al Sharpton and you should all feel free to bring up any negative stories about the NYPD that you think will help get to the big payday.
There is no double standard.
Bring up any incident you like.
By the way, who is investigating this event? Would it be NYPD and others who happen to work for the same city?
There is no double standard.
Of course not, everything is on the up and up wideawake...Like government agencies like NSA, IRS, NYPD, the attorney general etc etc...
Double standards, lies, deceit, corruption, just don't exist in government..
You betcha wideawake!
It would be the Civilian Complaint Review Board, who are an independent civil board unconnected with the NYPD, and who are not employed in any other capacity by the city.
But let me guess: despite their long track record of holding the NYPD's feet to the fire, you will accuse them of being somehow part of a grand conspiracy, yes?
Since you had no problem bringing up the victims background in an effort to discredit him, who is guilty of more serious crimes and corruption by a series of magnitudes wideawake?
Would it be Eric Garner or New York City and their police department?
Fact 1: Eric Gardner died of natural causes.
Fact 2: His family have asked for, and will get, a full investigation of the incident by an independent body regardless of Fact 1.
Fact 3: Gardner's past bad acts are relevant and will be weighed as part of the process.
Fact 4: the past bad acts of the officers and their department will also be weighed as part of the process.
Fact 5: There is no "double standard" here at all - saying it over and over again will not change your fantasy into a fact.
They base their review on who's investigation? The fish rots from the head.
Does this not matter?
If not, why bring up the victims past?
You've repeated this bizarre question multiple times.
NYPD officers - not the ones involved here, but other officers at other times - have committed felonies.
Eric Garner - like those other, unrelated officers - also committed felonies.
So the "magnitude" is the same: felony.
Of course, none of the cops involved in this incident have felony records, but Garner does.
So in this case, Garner is guilty of more serious crimes than any other principal in this incident.
I explained already.
Some interviewees on the news were saying that if he actually just died of a heart attack, it must have been because he was just an average Joe who was deathly afraid of being arrested and the shock of being arrested was too much to handle.
His past record shows this was manifestly not the case: he was quite familiar with the process - it was not a new surprise for him and he handled it just fine before.
The NYPD conducts its separate internal affairs investigation.
The agency they work for has a clear pattern of serious corruption and crime. No? Do they not all work for the same agency?
Why does the background of Garner matter, if NYPD's history of crime and corruption not matter?
You say there is no double standard in government? Right?
BS...They conduct their review investigation in large part on what NYPD’s investigation alleges. This is no secret.
Indeed they do.
Garner worked for an organization himself, which is solely in the business of committing crimes.
If every officer of the NYPD is to be - unconstitutionally - held liable for every crime an NYPD officer has ever committed, then surely it would only be fair to saddle Garner not only with the felonies he personally committed but also all the crimes committed by his criminal employers and associates as well.
That's not true in the slightest.
But feel free to slander the CCRB with whatever stuff you want to make up.
Yeah, he was a big time violent criminal, capable of anything...
So there ya have it.
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