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REM's Michael Stipe delayed HIV test to stay out of the, um, Reagan-Bush internment camps
Cain TV ^ | Monday June 30th, 2014 | Dan Calabrese

Posted on 07/05/2014 10:42:18 AM PDT by a fool in paradise

You remember those, right?

If you ever wonder where delusional left-wingers get their ideas that what is happening in the world, it's useful to know your history. They didn't just start believing crazy things when George W. Bush won the Florida recount, or when dastardly Republicans started criticizing Barack Obama. They've been this way for a long time.

And as is so often the case, the insanity is influenced and often led by figures in pop culture. REM front man Michael Stipe provided a perfect example in a recent statement about why, back in the 1980s, he decided not to get tested for HIV:

"In the early Eighties, as a 22-year-old queer man living during the Reagan-Bush administration, I was afraid to get tested for HIV for fear of quarantine, the threat of internment camps and having my basic civil rights stripped away," he said. "I waited five years to get my first anonymous test. I am happy that attitudes have matured and changed, and I feel lucky that I live in a country where acceptance, tolerance and policy toward HIV-AIDS and LGBTQ issues have advanced as far as they have."

You all remember the Reagan-Bush internment camps, right? Gay people with AIDS would be herded up by government agents in hazmat suits, put in the back of black vans and driven to camps with names like Stalag REM. There, they would be held by armed guards and fed porridge and drop biscuits three times a day until they simply wasted away, at which point their bones would be ground up and used to make more porridge for those who were still holding out against the inevitable.

And where were these internment camps? Everywhere. There was one in Reagan's birthplace of Tampico, Illinois. There was one at the Bush compound in Kennebunkport, Maine (where I hear a young George W. used to sit with Jeb up on a hill and watch the internees play volleyball under close supervision).

I was going to tell you about the talent show, but . . . OK, even I can only get so absurd here. But apparently there is no limit to how absurd a rock star like Michael Stipe can be with either his memory or his grasp of simple facts. There were never any internment camps or government-mandated quarantines, or were any discussed, proposed or contemplated. AIDS and HIV were new, frightening and mysterious things in the '80s, and everyone was trying to understand what to do about them and how to help those who had contracted them.

Obviously, because HIV is highly communicable, there was a lot of discussion about the best ways to stop its person-to-person spread. But no one ever proposed the sort of absurd nonsense Stipe describes. Which sort of makes you wonder: Is he engaging in hyperbole or did he really live in such a delusional bubble that he thought then - and maybe still thinks today - that the government under Reagan was rounding up AIDS patients and shipping them off to camps? Maybe people who move in the rock and roll world or who get their news from sources like Rolling Stone really think stuff like this went on. I guess it's that easy in hindsight to believe the left-wing legends about Reagan rather than remember the things he actually did - and didn't do.

Just a reminder: People who believe nonsense like this elected Barack Obama, and they are sadly still empowered to vote.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Music/Entertainment; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: aidscamps; barkingmoonbat; hivaids; homofascism; homosexualagenda; internmentcamps; michaelstipe; reagan; rem; revisionisthistory; rollingstoned; shoegazer
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To: Yaelle

Patient care providers were not allowed to know whether or not a patient they were working with was infected or not, as that would ‘violate patient privacy’. Instead, ALL patients were to be treated as if they were infected.

That part of the patient record was sealed from all nursing & ancillary staff; only the actual treating physician knew.

Lab draws for HIV testing were even coded to maintain anonymity from staff.

In cases of accidental needle-sticks, or other possible provider exposures, testing & follow up testing was done on the worker only, but the focus was to protect the “privacy” of any infected patient, unlike any other communicable disease. Isolation was out of the question, because it would “unfairly stigmatize” the patient—excuse me; the CLIENT.

It was insanity, and a major factor in my leaving patient care for a desk job.


41 posted on 07/05/2014 12:32:37 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: a fool in paradise

W is beloved in Africa for the HIV support he gave.


42 posted on 07/05/2014 12:37:46 PM PDT by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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To: a fool in paradise

It takes all that to tell them to masturbate, not fornicate?!?


43 posted on 07/05/2014 12:38:21 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: Chewbarkah

Democrats rounded up Japanese-Americans and put them in concentration camps during WWII. Germans got a pass.

During the 1930’s, Democrats used impoverished black men as lab rats, to see the effects of deliberately untreated syphilis.


Ever notice every “act of evil committed by the US” that the liberals shriek about were perpetrated by their fellows? Often, those they accuse were the ones fighting to expose and stop such behavior!


44 posted on 07/05/2014 12:43:58 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

And as far as internment camps for AIDS patients—the only person I can think of to do this would be Castro. A fellow traveler of Stipes and his ilk.


45 posted on 07/05/2014 12:46:07 PM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: a fool in paradise

The problem is idiots on the left say things like this and there’s no push-back from idiots on the right, so the LIV’s go around thinking there were indeed internment camps for AIDS-positive people back in the 80’s.


46 posted on 07/05/2014 1:05:30 PM PDT by Arm_Bears (Rope. Tree. Politician. Some assembly required.)
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To: Arm_Bears

There were.... in Cuba!


47 posted on 07/05/2014 1:06:25 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: a fool in paradise
so, rather than risk internment camps -- imaginary or otherwise -- this brave soul chose to ignore the possibility that he might be carrying the "gay cancer" and just kept on keeping on?

I detested this imbecilic band even before I knew this about him.

48 posted on 07/05/2014 1:15:22 PM PDT by faszakutya
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To: faszakutya

He toured the world with his band di-n’t he?

Why didn’t he just go to a clinic and get tested in Canada or the UK?


49 posted on 07/05/2014 1:24:58 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: a fool in paradise

Non-existent internment camps. Somebody should clue this freakin’ idiot things like internment(’’concentration)camps are creations of the Left(the Nazis, Soviet communists, etc.)


50 posted on 07/05/2014 1:28:32 PM PDT by jmacusa
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To: a fool in paradise

The nasty faggot.


51 posted on 07/05/2014 2:18:12 PM PDT by pallmallman (Q)
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