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World Cup preview: USA vs. Germany [ESPN 12:00 EDT]
WP ^ | June 26, 2014 | Michael Caley

Posted on 06/26/2014 7:23:27 AM PDT by 1rudeboy

Can two defensively suspect teams settle on a needed draw? If Team USA and Germany simply equal each other’s goal tallies, both sides will go through to the knockout rounds. In most cases, it would be expected that the two sides should line up in highly defensive formations and show little adventure, committing only the minimum number of men to any attack. If both sides play defensively, the draw will come regardless of any conspiracy.

The problem is, neither side is built to play the sort of boring, unadventurous soccer such a fixture requires. American fans are well aware of the struggles of Team USA to secure a back line, and Jurgen Klinsmann has settled on a system which uses two deep-lying and mostly defensive midfielders in Jermaine Jones and Kyle Beckerman to protect that back four.

Similarly, Germany is not the Germany of soccer legend, solid and hard-working and just good enough on set pieces to score one more goal than its opponent. Instead, under Jogi Loew Germany has been transformed into one of the most innovative and exciting attacking teams in the world. Playing a 4-3-3 without any true forward, the German system arguably includes either two or three false nines. As Mario Götze, Mesut Özil or Thomas Mueller drops out of the forward position and drags a defender out of position with him, one of the others or a midfielder like Sami Khedira will see the space that opens up and make a run toward the danger zone. These runs have produced many big chances already in the tournament, and the Germans have averaged three goals per match.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Sports
KEYWORDS: fifa; germany; soccer; teamusa; us; usa; worldcup
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To: dfwgator

I vote for “Miserable, Sprouty, Fat, Phlemish, Belgian Bastards”


181 posted on 06/26/2014 12:36:22 PM PDT by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

I really don’t think this tournament is a big deal for Klinsi. At this point, the team really isn’t in his image. But it’s been a good experience for some of the young guys who are going to take over the leadership for 2018, and hopefully we’ll have a group of young talent coming in as well, who will be Klinsi’s guys.

I expect much better things in 2018.


182 posted on 06/26/2014 12:37:58 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

Agreed. But if you are going to counter, look dangerous when you do.


183 posted on 06/26/2014 12:38:51 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("Compromise" means you've already decided you lost.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

After this World Cup, replacing Bradley is going to be Job One.


184 posted on 06/26/2014 12:40:42 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: goldstategop

Germany may well win it. Netherlands has a good chance too.

South America won the World Cup once in Europe. So Europe might win it to even it up.


185 posted on 06/26/2014 12:41:39 PM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: BeadCounter

France looked real good their first two games.


186 posted on 06/26/2014 12:42:38 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Colonel_Flagg
Any coach will say his team has to improve. Any win by the US now is the cherry on top. They have exceeded expectations.

The loss of Altidore is disappointing, but the US should be able to adjust. I would like to see Klinsman use Wondolowski in Altidore's place, even though it would be out of position for him. He has a nose for the ball around the goal. In these next matches I expect the US to go into more an attacking formation and mentality. It is win or go home. We don't have the defense to do anything else.

187 posted on 06/26/2014 12:43:23 PM PDT by kabar
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As things stand NOW.

USA/Belgium winner would play winner of Argentina/Switzerland. I think I’m getting this correct.

Netherlands/Mexico would play winner of Costa Rica/Greece.

One may look up other potential match-ups for themselves.

So just trying to look down the road apiece, that’s how things are shaping up.

Netherlands chances are fair but I just enjoy the spectacle, not trying to say one team is better than another.


188 posted on 06/26/2014 12:45:43 PM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: dfwgator

I was going to say that... the relatively weak opposition might have helped, but France has looked really sharp and everyone keeps overlooking them.


189 posted on 06/26/2014 12:46:18 PM PDT by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

-— Agreed. But if you are going to counter, look dangerous when you do. -—

I think our attack of Dempsey, Bradley and Zusi is very effective, and the best I’ve seen in US World Cup play. Careful buildups and sustained pressure don’t mean as much as results. We have scored three quality goals against three quality teams with many near misses. Having Altidore would have been great. We can play with any team now, except France and Holland.


190 posted on 06/26/2014 12:48:38 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: kevkrom

More impressive is they’ve done it without RIbery.


191 posted on 06/26/2014 12:48:42 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: kabar

I agree. I think Dempsey would help some of the issues I mentioned playing in his preferred position. And yes, now it is score or go home.


192 posted on 06/26/2014 12:57:21 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("Compromise" means you've already decided you lost.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Zusi has had one real moment in the group stage, supplying the corner against Ghana. Other than that he has been pretty quiet.

Bradley made major possession errors in each of the first two matches including gifting Portugal its equalizer, but at least he remembered what team he plays for today. Dempsey is the only one I can’t fault.

Good news - there is better yet in all three of them. :)


193 posted on 06/26/2014 1:00:37 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("Compromise" means you've already decided you lost.)
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To: dfwgator
If Costa Rica defeated Greece, which respectfully, they should, Costa Rica will have advanced as far as the USA, to the Quarterfinals I think except for the very first tournament ever in 1930 where of course, the USA was in the semi-finals. The 1930 tournament I think was run a bit differently than the ones after that.

But I like Greece too and that Samaras who plays for Celtic seems to be a good person. If the Greeks can do something, great for them. Good for the Ticos too. The way they played, you could think they could make the semifinals except Netherlands/Mexico would be difficult. Of course, in the real world, Greece or Costa Rica aren't going to win but it is a great accomplishment, probably the first time both of them advanced.


194 posted on 06/26/2014 1:04:34 PM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: Colonel_Flagg

But all or most of Zusi’s corner kicks have been on the money. That’s why he is there, he is accurate.


195 posted on 06/26/2014 1:05:48 PM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: BeadCounter

Looks now like Germany will get Russia in the Quarters.

You think Merkel and Putin will have a wager on that one?


196 posted on 06/26/2014 1:10:03 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

Bradley actually played very well today. He was very disruptive to the Germans and most of his passes were good.

Contrary to what many think, he also played well against Portugal. When hemade tha bad pass that turned the ball over, there were plenty of defenders available to defendthe cross if those players had been paying attention. There were 4-5 defenders, in an area where the were no opposing players. They should have retreated to the penalty area to defend against the cross. Ther also should have been another player going after Ronaldo for a double team.


197 posted on 06/26/2014 1:11:16 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: dfwgator

Yes. Winner gets Kursk. :)


198 posted on 06/26/2014 1:13:11 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("Compromise" means you've already decided you lost.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

Or Kamchatka.


199 posted on 06/26/2014 1:14:37 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: BeadCounter

The U.S. will beat Belgium and lose to Argentina. Messi is just too good for the U.S. and Argentina has other goal scoring threats.

Defensively, the U.S. is good enough, but it is going to take at least two goals to beat Argentina and I don’t think the U.S. can manage more that one unless Altidore can make it back in time. My guess is Argentina by a score of 3-1.


200 posted on 06/26/2014 1:18:08 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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