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1 posted on 06/17/2014 11:07:16 PM PDT by Morgana
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It’s good that this mother is observant, but we are talking about a 17 year old person here, not a 7 year old child. I don’t think they were completely out of line to presume this 7 y/o could speak for themselves w/o Mommy hovering in her helicopter.


2 posted on 06/17/2014 11:20:13 PM PDT by lee martell
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No treatment without indoctrination.

That appears to be the purpose and effect of this Michigan law. If the sign is accurate, it says that a child must submit to private instruction by a nurse of the institution or the child will not be treated. The story says there is no possibility of an "opt out" by the parent.

The constitutional question is obvious, in a world in which the court requires hospitals to treat everybody and sometimes requires people to submit to treatment, may the state require as a condition of that treatment that a child submit to indoctrination? Should the decision turn on what the enabling legislation authorizes or requires by way of indoctrination? Or is it enough simply to say that there is an inherent right in the child and in the parent to be free of brainwashing?


4 posted on 06/17/2014 11:45:11 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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if that child gets pregnant or gets an std as a result of this talk can the parent/child sue the hospital????? Children have been known to ignore advice and proceed with irresponsible action anyway.


5 posted on 06/17/2014 11:49:59 PM PDT by RginTN
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No opt out = you have no rights


6 posted on 06/17/2014 11:55:17 PM PDT by Flick Lives ("I can't believe it's not Fascism!")
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To: Morgana
http://biblehub.com/genesis/19-5.htm

And they called to Lot, and said to him, Where are the men which came in to you this night? bring them out to us, that we may know them.

7 posted on 06/18/2014 12:56:26 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall ; / ?)
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We’re with the HMO Kaiser Permanente, and on their web site it says that 12 year olds have to give permission for their parents to see their information on their web site. TWELVE. This is outrageous. My kids are 7. Five years is looking very short to me right now. :(


9 posted on 06/18/2014 1:16:04 AM PDT by Hetty_Fauxvert (FUBO, and the useful idiots you rode in on!)
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To: Morgana

This has been going on for years in Calif.
they also do an automatic dip on the urine(pregnancy test) if a girl say age 10 and up come in complaining of abd pain.
The do you have any guns in the home question likewise has been in play here for many years.
And i don’t like any of it, especially when the parents leave the room so the Dr can question an 11 yr old about their sexual practices


11 posted on 06/18/2014 2:19:09 AM PDT by peteyd (A dog may bite you in the ass,but it will never stab you in the back.)
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“We need to have a talk with your little slut because there is a War on Women”.


13 posted on 06/18/2014 3:24:13 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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There is a whole web of laws and regulations, 40 years in the making, to shield the “reproductive rights” of girls to young too consent to intercourse from their parents interference.

This is not about some hospital in Michigan. This is true of every single hospital, clinic, private office, public school, and state health department in the United States.


16 posted on 06/18/2014 5:18:17 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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