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To: workerbee
I’m in no way disparaging a college education. I attended community college, got my AA, then went on to get my BS from a university — all 6-1/2 yrs of this as a night student who worked full time during the day. So, yes, I know how horrible it is.

Let’s not sugarcoat the fact that having children out of wedlock, and prior to receiving said degree, is a sure-fire way of stalling your future.
Having children out of wedlock is the worst as it deprives children of having their daddy living at HOME and being there.
It is also quintessentially selfish and self serving. It shows an amazing degree of lack of self control. It's USUALLY a sign of a fatherless daughter...even worse.

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I will stand by my comment that an AA is not going to advance most people very far in most white-collar professions.
True about the AA degree but, for some reason, that is usually the huge stumbling block for most people. I don't think that high school prepares students for college in any way, shape or form.
The AA is a small, humble degree but one simply CANNOT go into the white collar jobs with out it. So, in the long run, it's huge. TOO many young people think like you do, that the A.A. is small, useless. But, it's like learning to read and write...humble things that a six year old can do. However, those two humble little skills are the gateway to almost ALL learning. So, in fact, they are huge.
I believe that of the oh-so-small-A.A. degree.

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The bachelors is pretty much the standard minimum, and even that, you better be very sure of what your expectations are.
True. I never had ANY other expectations from my parents other than I would eventually be a teacher. LATER I went back for the M.A. and it was SO MUCH easier than the B.A.. Hah, a mere 30 units for the M.A.--piece of cake.

I have a stepdaughter majoring in Dramatic Arts right now. Don’t even get me started...
Lol. She would be a FABULOUS teacher with that degree. Her students would adore her!
When she gets out into the real world, REALITY will catch up with her. If she's got the backbone she can return to school at night and get a degree at something she can use. It would be FAR simpler as she would have all those pesky university "prerequisites" already out of the way.

*My husband went back to school at 29 and got a degree in mechanical engineering from the University of California (Berkeley). He simply "wasn't ready" before he was 29.

**My mother went to college WAY back when women did NOT go to college. She got her degree but she never used it. She learned to type and take shorthand and got TONS of work immediately. That was then. Things have changed.
BUT at 55 years old she went back to school AGAIN and took art. She became quite good.
She also took law. At 60 years old she took the California State Bar Exam, passed it the first time (It took Nixon THREE times to pass it.), hung out her shingle and practiced family law for 20 years, retiring finally at 80 years of age.

33 posted on 05/30/2014 5:09:41 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

WOW, my hat is off to your mother! Now THAT’s ambition for you. Dre & Tanika could learn a thing or two from her, I’m guessing! LOL


34 posted on 05/30/2014 5:31:52 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1!)
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To: cloudmountain
TOO many young people think like you do, that the A.A. is small, useless.

It's an accomplishment, sure, but in the jobs world I think it's merely a stepping stone to a BA/BS, or perhaps to a more indepth trade. On its own, I don't believe (except for very particular circumstances) an AA is worth a whole lot. For someone like Dre in this article to use it as an example of how he's "educated" and that it puts him "above" the fast-food level, by itself, is simply wrong. NO DEGREE will put you above your hard work and ambition. There are a lot of people out there who are being steered to believe many things that aren't true about degrees and the job market. Many young people ought to be in trade schools or apprenticeships, but there's so much emphasis on "a college degree" that those things seem neglected, and hence, the value of the degree itself is watered down.

Perhaps a FReeper business owner/employer can give better insight.

42 posted on 05/30/2014 5:59:10 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1!)
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