Posted on 05/28/2014 7:45:41 PM PDT by mgist
“I consider Snowden to be a Patriot not a traitor.”
I agree...
He exposed how our government has been and still is spying on us. The leaks are harmful to those in power in government, not necessarily to the US. Big difference.
Millions of people were, if you recall
Because those countries are communist crap holes. This country is supposed to not be like them. We expect these things from them, but not America. What could you possibly leak about any of those countries that would damage them? Any one of them could kill a million people, again mind you, and the rest of the world would do what? Send an angry letter?
Again, America is supposed to be this great nation that stands for freedom. Snowden exposed it as a lie. The end doesn’t justify the means nor does nationalism excuse tyranny.
agreed
“I consider Snowden to be a Patriot not a traitor.”
I guess Ellsworth was a patriot as well, then?
He’s an Obama supporter, as he acknowledged and literally admitted holding back some info as “he was sure Obama could win”, and didn’t want to hurt Obama.
But, you think he is a Patriot. lol
“He exposed how our government has been and still is spying on us. The leaks are harmful to those in power in government, not necessarily to the US. Big difference.”
His personal representative, admitted that he could have made millions selling his stolen information to foreign governments. There is much more here than leaking the extent of spying...much more.
I agree. Because of his actions, younger generations are now on board with understanding how the government has way over-stepped its bounds.
“This country is supposed to not be like them.”
The US is not like them in the least. They spy as a matter of consistent policy with no oversight or care regarding the violation of privacy. Our spying was spurred from an event, a terror attack on this country. The reaction was an overreach and it will be investigated and corrected.
Privacy rights, in times of crises and war, fluctuate back and forth as a matter of factual history. Equivocating this to the purposeful spying by authoritarian countries, who do so for the good of the state over the individual, is a poor comparison. In those nations, there is no oversight, check, investigation, it’s what they do and intend to do.
“Again, America is supposed to be this great nation that stands for freedom. Snowden exposed it as a lie.”
Total hyperbole. America does stand for freedom.
One can only hope, but the overreach is thirteen years old and more pervasive by the moment. The metadata collection by NSA is only slightly more scary than google.
There are about 12 iterations of me wandering about the net and I would suggest the same for my FRiends. My favorite school of thought is to put out and about as much conflicting info related to as little truth as possible.
Probably useless but the practice makes my feel better.
Definitely best that we all stay vigilant.
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