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Vet Allegedly Beaten To Death At VA Hospital
Opposing Views ^ | May 25, 2014 | Sarah Fruchtnicht

Posted on 05/27/2014 6:24:26 PM PDT by Altariel

A California woman says Veterans Administration hospital guards beat her husband to death after he waited four hours for dialysis.

Norma Montano says her husband of 44 years, Jonathan, died of a stroke on June 11, 2011, after he was beaten and had his carotid artery stomped by VA guards. Montano says the hospital also lied to her about what happened to her husband.

Montano’s son and daughter are also plaintiffs in the suit.

Montano says he husband was tired of waiting, but when he tried to leave and go to another facility, he “was told by the nursing staff not to leave.”

"Jonathan Montano told the nurse that he was leaving and was going to the VA Hospital in Long Beach, California, [and that] he wanted to leave the needle apparatus [a shunt] in his arm, so they wouldn't have to put a new one in at the Long Beach VA Hospital,” the complaint states.

When he insisted on leaving, the staff at the Loma Linda, Calif., facility called VA Police.

"The summoned VA Police Department police officers then stopped Jonathan Montano from leaving the VA Hospital in Loma Linda, by tackling him to the floor, slamming his head on the floor, and kneeing and stomping on his neck, and otherwise brutalizing and restraining him,” the suit says.

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KEYWORDS: arrestrelateddeaths; california; democratcare; donutwatch; hospital; hospitalpolice; jonathanmontano; lomalinda; normamontano; va; vadeaths; vahospital; vascandal; vascandals; veteran; veterans; vets
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To: clee1

Seems reasonable. They do it for the cops.


81 posted on 05/28/2014 2:46:13 PM PDT by defconw (Well now what?)
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To: Altariel

I understand that is the theory. But, in your personal experience, does this story make sense.

My experience with semi-cops everywhere in my life is that they just don’t stomp on someone. And I have been an a-hole with those types. I am an ornery old coot.

Of course your mileage may vary. I would love to hear the guard’s side.

In most hospitals if you don’t want their help—there are rooms full of people who are waiting for help. They wouldn’t hold you back unless there was good reason.

Just my thoughts. Not taking sides.


82 posted on 05/28/2014 4:08:43 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: defconw

That was my point. Why should I leave my LEGAL, licensed-to-carry firearm in the parking lot to be stolen? The county saw it my way and installed a gun locker similar to those used in jails. You walk in, inform them you’re carrying, safe the weapon, hand it over and they lock it in your own drawer and hand you a key.

When you leave, you give them they key, they give you your piece, and you rearm yourself at the door. Three years now without a single incident.


83 posted on 05/28/2014 9:32:50 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: Vermont Lt

Unfortunately, the available data shows otherwise.

It doesn’t make sense to throw a live grenade into a house in the middle of the night, knowing (as any person with a modicum of intelligence would) that women and children are likely to be asleep within.

Now a little toddler is paying the price for a government employee’s decision to “play soldier”.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3161587/posts

You are attempting to assume rational behavior from the Power Hungry. The Power Hungry can be safely assumed to act in ways which they deem to increase their power.


84 posted on 05/29/2014 9:57:43 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel

Your argument is not valid.

Show me where hospital security has acted this poorly in the past. Not stupid steroid riddled swat cops.

Hospital security spends more time helping folks off the floor, not beating them to death.

I am simply saying there is a LOT more to this story than we are being told. Have these security guys been arrested or detained?

That alone tells me there is more going on here.

You cannot suggest that the media has it all wrong when we don’t like story—and then rely on them to be accurate when they report something you want to believe.

You have to think critically about this stuff.


85 posted on 05/30/2014 5:15:22 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: SargeK

“I’ll leave it to others to determine which Amendment provides the appropriate remedy.”

It’s gotten so bad, I think I’ll stick with the 21st Amendment! ;)


86 posted on 06/05/2014 3:00:56 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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