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What Gun Control Would Have Worked (vanity)
(none) | May 25, 2014 | Self

Posted on 05/25/2014 6:16:08 AM PDT by BobL

I've been trying to think of all the post-Sandy Hook gun control legislation that has been proposed (some of it passed), and I can't think of a single piece of legislation that would have stopped him. The only thing that I can come up with is a complete ban on handguns. What would not have helped:

1) Expanded background checks - he legally bought the guns - gun show, private buyer, no difference - they checked on him.

2) Gun Registration - all handguns are registered in California, and I assume his too, as he legally owned them

3) Smaller Magazines - I don't have enough details, but likely not

4) Smart Guns - They were his legal guns and he would have been the authorized mass killer

5) Preventing nuts from owning guns - Nope, he had enough sense not to get mixed up in the "mental health" system.

6) Waiting period - California already has something like 2 weeks before you take ownership of the gun you just bought.

7) Assault Weapons - Sorry, not used

Bottom line, no matter what they say, their end game has to be to take our guns (and we always knew that).


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; killings
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1 posted on 05/25/2014 6:16:08 AM PDT by BobL
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A complete ban on handguns wouldn’t have worked because he would have either bought them illegally or just used different weapons.


2 posted on 05/25/2014 6:17:33 AM PDT by dinodino
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With a complete ban on handguns, only bad guys would have them....what does that accomplish.

How ‘bout a law that arms anybody that wants to be armed? An armed society is a polite society.


3 posted on 05/25/2014 6:20:27 AM PDT by SgtBob (Freedom is not for the faint of heart. Semper Fi!)
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To: dinodino

And he also started out by stabbing three men to death - http://www.keyt.com/news/Rampage-in-college-town-began-with-stabbings/26153616


4 posted on 05/25/2014 6:20:38 AM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: BobL

One armed citizen is your answer.


5 posted on 05/25/2014 6:22:25 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: RightGeek

My point exactly. He would have used a different weapon, such as an axe or a sword.


6 posted on 05/25/2014 6:23:04 AM PDT by dinodino
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Good point...the guns are out there, and they are not going away. I guess my point was that he would have then had to break the law...but all this other crap would have permitted him to legally buy the guns and do what he did.


7 posted on 05/25/2014 6:26:23 AM PDT by BobL
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With a complete ban on handguns, only bad guys would have them

Very true. And it's not like you're just guessing here. The country's experience with Prohibition in the 1920's proves that you are correct.

8 posted on 05/25/2014 6:27:31 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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The younger Rodger apparently telegraphed his intentions. The day before the rampage, he released a YouTube video entitled "Retribution," in which he rants about women who ignored or rejected him over the past eight years, "since I hit puberty."

The obvious solution is to castrate all boys as soon as they hit puberty, right?

/S

9 posted on 05/25/2014 6:27:41 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ( "For those who have fought for it, Life bears a savor the protected will never know")
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Terrorists ignore ALL laws. And...they usually don’t need guns to do their dirty work.

Banning guns will have ZERO effect on violence if someone is hell bent on killing people. ZERO.


10 posted on 05/25/2014 6:27:54 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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The gov’t defines mass murder as any event where 4 or more people besides the perp lose their life. Out of 317 million people, there are but a handful per year that distiguish themselves as mass murderers.

I too, cannot think of a single law or action that could stop these twisted and evil people.

Beyond the mass murderers, there are about 8,500 other murders per year. This number could be cut dramatically, but not thru gun control. The only method of cutting firearms related murders is thru criminal control.

Gun control is kind of like trying to solve drunken driving by making it harder for sober people to own cars.


11 posted on 05/25/2014 6:31:05 AM PDT by umgud
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I think you are posting on the wrong thread...Sandy Hook is 3,000 miles away from SoCal....jus’ sayin’...


12 posted on 05/25/2014 6:31:05 AM PDT by SgtBob (Freedom is not for the faint of heart. Semper Fi!)
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I guess my point was that he would have then had to break the law...

He did break the law....he was too young to purchase. IIRC, he took them from his mother, and killed her with them. Please correct me if my recollection is wrong.

13 posted on 05/25/2014 6:36:21 AM PDT by SgtBob (Freedom is not for the faint of heart. Semper Fi!)
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He knows that. Re-read please.


14 posted on 05/25/2014 6:36:24 AM PDT by Codeflier (Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama - 4 democrat presidents in a row and counting...)
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Re-read....coming up with the same response...help a brother out.


15 posted on 05/25/2014 6:40:35 AM PDT by SgtBob (Freedom is not for the faint of heart. Semper Fi!)
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Gun control can work... in a way, and for a while, but not here. Consider what I call the “Singapore solution,” where gun crime is met by a death sentence, or perhaps caning until near death. Under those conditions—gun crime disappears. However, you also need a very tough judicial system, so that guns aren’t as necessary for personal self defense, and absolute trust in your government, so they aren’t necessary for defense against future government tyranny.

Those conditions aren’t met here. Tons of guns are available; the judicial system is too lax to frighten career criminals; and our government is untrustworthy and on the borderline of becoming downright adversarial. So, most gun control attempts here are misguided. They enhance criminal and government power by selectively affecting the law-abiding. In other words, as a society we are too disunited and corrupt. Most other countries are, as well.


16 posted on 05/25/2014 6:40:51 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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All pistols were sold to him with 10 rd magazines IAW California law. The Sheriff stated this a the news conference on Saturday. Killer had no others.


17 posted on 05/25/2014 6:41:22 AM PDT by TaMoDee (Go Pack Go! The Pack will be back in 2014!)
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His own family told the police he was insane and threatening violence.

He sent a manifesto to the news.

There is a ton of evidence on his hard drive and in the cloud via his online presence.

But when the police interviewed him, they thought he was "polite and nice." So they did nothing.

This is not a Second Amendment problem. This is a Fourth Amendment problem.

18 posted on 05/25/2014 6:44:05 AM PDT by wideawake
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There is(and Never will be)A”Smart Gun”!A gun is an”Inanimate Object”that The Left upon which The Left has bestowed”Mystical Powers”!!It can commit murder and mayhem at it’s OWN Will;therefor,We Must”BAN THEM”!!!!!!!!!!!!


19 posted on 05/25/2014 6:48:16 AM PDT by bandleader
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...”the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed...”


20 posted on 05/25/2014 6:48:19 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..)d)
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