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The Maine Secession Movement is now actively inviting
Maine Secession Movement | May 24, 2014 | Maine Secession Movement staff

Posted on 05/24/2014 6:48:40 AM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine

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To: Fuzz

Your post makes the common assumption among the religiously illiterate that one religion is the same as any other. Simply not true. Islam’s goals and values are in direct opposition to Christianity’s goals and values. Therefore a community voluntarily living under a set of generally agreed-upon values is not any kind of version of the Taliban, which relies on coercion, force and violence to achieve outward compliance.


41 posted on 05/24/2014 8:28:52 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: The_Republic_Of_Maine
No public celebrations, games, or parties shall be allowed on the Sabbath and may not be exempted.

My particular "denomination" has a tradition of public celebrations on the Lord's Day, usually involving food as well as drink and even music. Will these traditions be permitted to continue out-of-doors as they have been for centuries in this new Republic of Maine?

42 posted on 05/24/2014 8:29:03 AM PDT by Oratam
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To: so_real
"Interesting ... "

Thank you.

43 posted on 05/24/2014 8:29:37 AM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (Be kept informed on Maine's secession, sign up at freemaine@hushmail.com)
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To: Fuzz
sharia rather than anything resembling freedom or democracy.

And further: popular democracy was soundly rejected by the U.S. Founders as an outright evil, as we are seeing today with the rise of media-generated populism.

44 posted on 05/24/2014 8:30:48 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: Fuzz
"A pastor deciding not only which religion, but which denominations of one particular religion qualify is opposed to at least the first 3 sections or the proposal. This proposal sounds like a Christian version of the Taliban enacting sharia rather than anything resembling freedom or democracy."

We have no intentions of ever being a democracy we will be a a Republic.

45 posted on 05/24/2014 8:30:57 AM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (Be kept informed on Maine's secession, sign up at freemaine@hushmail.com)
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To: wideawake
"There is no purpose in discussing whether ME will secede. It cannot as a matter of Constitutional law, and it will not even try to. "

You are wrong. But, if you think you are right, Show me that Constitutional Law.

46 posted on 05/24/2014 8:32:07 AM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (Be kept informed on Maine's secession, sign up at freemaine@hushmail.com)
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To: logic101.net
"Why would the people’s republic of Maine be looking for born agains to move there and water down their socialist tendencies?"

to water down their socialist tendencies.

47 posted on 05/24/2014 8:33:09 AM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (Be kept informed on Maine's secession, sign up at freemaine@hushmail.com)
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To: Genoa

Unitarians aren’t Christians. They may say they are, but universalism isn’t a possible thing. Salvation is individual, as the Bible clearly indicates.


48 posted on 05/24/2014 8:33:57 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: Genoa
"Will the militia be enforcing religion?"

No, the militia is the first and last defense of the Republic, it is not the police.

49 posted on 05/24/2014 8:34:11 AM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (Be kept informed on Maine's secession, sign up at freemaine@hushmail.com)
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To: wideawake

You are from the peoples republic of NJ aren’t you.


50 posted on 05/24/2014 8:35:08 AM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (Be kept informed on Maine's secession, sign up at freemaine@hushmail.com)
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To: wideawake
Republic of Maine currency:

- $100 bill: Olympia Snowe
- $50 bill: Susan Collins
- $20 bill: A pine tree
- $10 bill: A lobster
- $5 bill: A cottage
- $1 bill: A mountain

51 posted on 05/24/2014 8:35:31 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (100% pure organic, free-range conservative)
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To: FatherofFive

See post 41.


52 posted on 05/24/2014 8:36:17 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: cripplecreek
"I sure hope they’re calling for the military to remove all their personnel AND equipment. "

Already just about done, we are working on getting rid of the rest. We have no need for them.

53 posted on 05/24/2014 8:36:38 AM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (Be kept informed on Maine's secession, sign up at freemaine@hushmail.com)
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To: The_Republic_Of_Maine
"This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the constitution or laws of any state to the contrary notwithstanding."

US Constitution VI.2

Any act of secession is subject to federal review, by definition.

Sorry.

By the way, when was this date of June 12, 2018 decided? And by whom?

54 posted on 05/24/2014 8:36:57 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: The_Republic_Of_Maine
Is casting aspersions on someone's supposed place of origin an argument?

Is that the best you can do to explain and defend your questionable project?

55 posted on 05/24/2014 8:39:18 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Albion Wilde

“Your post makes the common assumption among the religiously illiterate that one religion is the same as any other.”

No. It states that a government enforcing particular religious dogma from selective sects of one religion through armed militias are diametrically opposed to the concepts of freedom and liberty regardless of how benevolent or doctrinally sound you find that theocracy to be.

“Islam’s goals and values are in direct opposition to Christianity’s goals and values.”

And this proposal by Christians is in direct opposition to liberty and personal freedom. Concepts I personally value.

“Therefore a community voluntarily living under a set of generally agreed-upon values is not any kind of version of the Taliban, which relies on coercion, force and violence to achieve outward compliance.”

Have you not read the initial post? Pay attention to the armed militia part.


56 posted on 05/24/2014 8:40:59 AM PDT by Fuzz
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To: Albion Wilde

“And further: popular democracy was soundly rejected by the U.S. Founders as an outright evil, as we are seeing today with the rise of media-generated populism.”

As were theocracies and fascism.


57 posted on 05/24/2014 8:42:24 AM PDT by Fuzz
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To: The_Republic_Of_Maine

LOL

You aren’t doing squat. The feds are closing them down.

Naval Air Station Brunswick was the last military airfield under the jurisdiction of the Department of Defense that was still operating in the northeastern part of the United States of America. The installation was entirely closed on May, 31-st, 2011. Its activity was ceased during the 2005 Base Realignment and Closure (BRAC) commission. Its importance was not convincing enough for the officials who decided to slowly shut it down. The process began immediately after the commission took the decision, with the final closure in 2011. The base was located in the southwestern side of Maine, close to the city with the same name. It was the second most important employer in the state. There were close to 5,000 employees on site, counting both military troops and civilian personnel. The installation supported the local economy with almost $200 millions on a yearly basis.

Naval Shipyard Portsmouth is still operational.

Naval Shipyard Portsmouth is a military shipyard belonging to the United States Navy and located between two states – New Hampshire and Maine. It is one of the oldest facilities operated by the US Navy and is often confused with a similar base in Portsmouth, but in Virginia. The base spreads over 54 acres and is led by L. Bryant Fuller. Although it is named after a nearby city, it is actually located in Kittery.

In 2005, NS Portsmouth was supposed to be closed. It was marked by the Base Realignment and Closure commission for closure. The employees led a campaign to convince the commission keeps the installation alive and they succeeded.


58 posted on 05/24/2014 8:45:42 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Albion Wilde; The_Republic_Of_Maine

There are some unitarian sects that aren’t universalist, but let’s not digress. Here’s another test case. Do Roman Catholic churches have the same freedom as Protestant churches in the Maine republic?


59 posted on 05/24/2014 8:47:39 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: The_Republic_Of_Maine

What I am saying is that age cannot be determined with a precision of one day if it is based upon conception. The best that can be done is about one week. I understand the desire to protect the pre-born child from abortion, but there are better (and far less complicated and ambiguous) ways to do it.


60 posted on 05/24/2014 8:48:02 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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