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To: ansel12

Ok, then you must favor amnesty. You know since the Party does.
I served in the military...have you? I know there are lots of young fit people. But there is this thing called DISCIPLINE.. or following orders. Maybe you should read up on it. I know that sounds condescending, but I go where your remarks take me. When I served, outward sexuality was forbidden. And it worked, so don’t tell me it can’t. That’s defeatist and sounds like you are saying if people are going to violate the rules anyway then there shouldn’t be any. So, you are on the wrong side yet again...

I will drop NOTHING. Who says we are past civil unions? Obama himself just became pro gay marriage over the past couple of years. Nothing is set in stone and this is a solution to the problem.

I also do not care if you are a pure conservative, which I am guessing you are not as you seem to love using government power. Yes, this discussion is about libertarianism itself. And you have once again failed to see that it is NOT monolithic just as conservatism is not. But you have to try to make it that way so you have some boogey man to fight and whine about. If you cannot see that then you are not nearly as smart or politically savvy as you believe yourself to be.

I will say this however. The Libertarian Party was founded with certain principles in mind. While I do not agree with some of their prescriptions, as I have already explained, I will at least say they are true to their small government principles. Can the Republican Party say that? Can you? Right now you and your ilk are part of the statist problem. So keep villifying everyone else and gloss over your own faults. It works for 6 year olds, why not you too.


206 posted on 05/10/2014 11:08:39 PM PDT by BizBroker (There is no "radical Islam", there is only Islam itself.)
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To: BizBroker

A lot of what you say, I don’t even know what it means, for instance this “”When I served, outward sexuality was forbidden.””

I’m a two time vet, I have no idea what that means, we never hid our sexuality, we were randy paratroopers and soldiers, all the men in my family are vets, Navy, Army, Marines, I don’t know what you are talking about “outward sexuality was forbidden”, we reveled in it, openly, we sang songs about it in basic and AIT, and at Jump School and on morning runs and marches, the sergeants and officers sang them, led them, we couldn’t bring hookers to the barracks though.
Homosexuals are either in or out, so far you say ‘in’, as long as they can hide that they are homosexual, well that was true under George Washington, you only got kicked out if someone discovered you were homosexual, in other words, it was against the law to lie to get in.

If you don’t want gay marriage and abortion at the federal level, do you want the laws changed, or kept as they are?

I am a pretty pure conservative, it is you that rejects it and has moved left into libertarianism, and you are a republican as well.

What have I posted that is “statist”, would you quote it for me?


208 posted on 05/10/2014 11:29:07 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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