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I have had high cholesterol for years but fortunately I never went to a high carb diet because my digestive system did not agree to it. (didn't quit red meat either) I'm the only one in my family that hasn't diabetes type 2.
1 posted on 05/04/2014 12:04:15 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

Cut open an animal that has been Corn fed ad cut open a naturally feeding animal.

The corn fed one will be the one with massive fatty deposits around the heart.


2 posted on 05/04/2014 12:07:25 PM PDT by mylife
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To: Rusty0604

Sugar is the culprit not fats.

Doe anyone really follow the stupid govt recommendations? They may listen to the doc but not some food pyramid.

Carbs and processed foods are cheaper, which is why most people go for em.


3 posted on 05/04/2014 12:18:51 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Rusty0604

I still won’t eat it.


6 posted on 05/04/2014 12:21:44 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: Rusty0604

I eat everything. I love the fat on a nice juicy steak.

What I rarely do is mix proteins and fats.

I almost never eat butter and bread.

I don’t care to eat bacon and eggs. luv bacon but, I est it alone and I love it xtra crispy.

I don’t like cheese on my hamburger.

BP 120/80


9 posted on 05/04/2014 12:24:13 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Rusty0604

“One consequence is that in cutting back on fats, we are now eating a lot more carbohydrates—at least 25% more since the early 1970s.”

They can speak for themselves. I’m done with carbs as a major ingredient of my diet. Yes, once in a while I might have rice, but still no bread, potatoes, extra sugar, etc.

These guys are ABSOLUTELY CLUELESS. Atkins debunked the idea that meat/eggs/cheese is bad for you, and the book Wheat Belly pretty much concluded the story, by explaining just what TODAY’S wheat does to the (non-adapted) human body.

So go Paleo, in some form.


12 posted on 05/04/2014 12:32:07 PM PDT by BobL
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To: Rusty0604

That’s a good article.

Of the several problem with vegetable oils, one is that most people don’t realize when soy/canola/etc truly are rancid—we don’t ever just drink the oil by itself. Because these oils have a lot of Omega-6 or Omega-3 oils, they turn rancid very quickly (months after opening). Added to this, we don’t typically refrigerate them, which would help extend their useful lives a bit. Racid fat sucks up all of our reserves of antioxidants to disarm their oxidative harm. Oxidated fats (not disarmed by antioxidants) help encourage the dangerous fatty cholesterol plaques lining our vascular system by damaging (nicking) the vessels (but even iron can act in a similar way).

There’s new hope in removing these normally permanent plaques, though. Statins aside, Vitamin K2 (MK-7) has been shown to greatly reduce standing cholesterol plaques in animals. It is now thought that deficiencies in magnesium, Vitamin D, Vitamin K, boron and calcium all contribute to proper cardiovascular and bone health, keeping calcium away from permanently becoming a part of the cholesterol/calcium plaque and pumping that calcium into bone.

I encourage everyone to read up on these items.


14 posted on 05/04/2014 12:34:03 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: Rusty0604

There are still some very interesting twists and turns on the diet front, however. With the 500 pound gorilla in the room being the intestinal flora.

At least one Phylum (out of 52), the Firmicutes, and 26 species of bacteria in the human gut microbiota, and the entire genus of Enterobacter appear to be linked to obesity and related metabolic complications, with obese people instead of having 30-40 major bacterial types in their flora, having almost 1/3rd of the physical space occupied by these “weight gainers.”

Others, such as Akkermansia muciniphila, and even the genus Bacteroides may fight obesity.

Studies indicate that long-term diet is strongly associated with the gut microbiome composition - those who eat plenty of protein and animal fats have predominantly Bacteroides bacteria, while for those who consume more carbohydrates the Prevotella species dominate. They feed on complex host-derived and plant glycans.

For its part, A. muciniphila lives in the mucin layer of the large intestines.

http://www.pnas.org/content/110/22/9066.full

It consumes Inulin and Oligosaccharide, which are not otherwise digestible by people. Along with other water soluble fibers, with which they may behave synergistically in promoting weight loss.


22 posted on 05/04/2014 12:47:08 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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To: Rusty0604
My take is there are 3 heart attack culprits: 1) Inactivity (clogs arteries) 2) Excess salt or sugar, 3) Insufficient alcohol intake

A little alcohol (preferably red wine) every day is a huge deterrent!

29 posted on 05/04/2014 12:57:37 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: Rusty0604

Fast food joints used to cook french fries in animal fat (lard).

Now they´re cooked in vegetable oil. Not only do they not taste as good, they’re less healthy.


39 posted on 05/04/2014 1:17:02 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: Rusty0604
The video at this link is well worth anybody's time ..... pretty unbelievable actually how we find ourselves in an obesity epidemic .... government intervention, no/poor science, big money ..... the usual suspects.

How did we come to believe saturated fat and cholesterol are bad for us?

42 posted on 05/04/2014 1:18:10 PM PDT by Qiviut (Obama: A Caesar at home & a Chamberlain abroad, dividing the country & uniting the world against us.)
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To: Rusty0604

Most health problems in America today are caused by too much food and too little exercise.

That is all.


43 posted on 05/04/2014 1:19:13 PM PDT by Chuckster (The longer I live the less I care about what you think.)
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To: Rusty0604

The one link to what causes heart disease is the link to your daddy. It’s all in the genes.

Most older nutritionists are so far behind the times that it’s sickening. And they’re not going to change their spiel. If they did, they’d have to admit their entire career was wrong. My wife’s nutritionist with
Kelsey-Seibold gave her a diet that includes everything. It’s just in smaller portions. Her blood sugar was under control in a week.


44 posted on 05/04/2014 1:22:07 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: Rusty0604

Gary Taubes’s, in his landmark book, “Good Calories, Bad Calories, “ was one of the first to comprehensively challenge the fat/meat is bad nonsense.


49 posted on 05/04/2014 1:36:11 PM PDT by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: The Californian; OldNewYork

Weston A. Price Foundation ping.


50 posted on 05/04/2014 1:39:34 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Rusty0604

I’m totally amazed that so many gullible people never realized the whole fat thing was just a way for everyone and their uncle to make money from obesity and all the other attendant ailments. Look at what people eat who live in remote areas that don’t have many stores, and who do some physical work-they are not obese...

Brought up on a ranch, we ate meat and cheese, fresh veggies and fruit-all fresh from the garden, orchard and livestock. White/refined sugar was believed to be bad, as was bleached flour-my mom and aunts made corn tortillas, not flour ones. There was fresh locally harvested honey, but usually no sugar except raw brown for baking-I live in the country now, where free range meat is still available, and I grow veggies-so I still eat that way. I smoke a cigarette or two every few days, and have an occasional glass of red wine, or a beer-all things in moderation...

Being overweight is not common in the family-I’ve weighed 108-112 since I was 17-and living into one’s 90’s, or to 100 is not uncommon.

I was given a food pyramid by a well-meaning pediatrician when my cub was a baby, just to “be sure” I knew how to feed my kid. I showed it to my aunt who was an herbalist, who threw it in the trash, and I fed her the way I was fed and it all worked out fine-if I’d have listened to that doc, my child would have looked like a “before” ad for Nutrisystem...

I don’t use any kind of drugs, either, prescription or illicit, and seldom even OTC-I was brought up believing they are unnatural and not that good for the body-but I do use natural remedies, vitamins and supplements, and have a job that requires hard, physical work.


63 posted on 05/04/2014 2:01:47 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: berdie

berdie


109 posted on 05/04/2014 4:12:02 PM PDT by berdie
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To: zot; Interesting Times; Alamo-Girl; SeraphimApprentice; NYer

the most interesting point is the possibility of the Mediterranean diet theory being based upon an erroneous sample:

“The study’s star subjects—upon whom much of our current understanding of the Mediterranean diet is based—were peasants from Crete, islanders who tilled their fields well into old age and who appeared to eat very little meat or cheese.”

“As it turns out, Dr. Keys visited Crete during an unrepresentative period of extreme hardship after World War II. Furthermore, he made the mistake of measuring the islanders’ diet partly during Lent, when they were forgoing meat and cheese. Dr. Keys therefore undercounted their consumption of saturated fat. Also, due to problems with the surveys, he ended up relying on data from just a few dozen men....”


110 posted on 05/04/2014 4:12:34 PM PDT by GreyFriar ( Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Rusty0604
The horror stories in this article result from polyunsaturated fats. Reduction of saturated fat intake is a good thing.

The author, Nina Teicholz, is not a doctor, is not a nutritionist, is not a chemist, is not a scientist in any other field. Ms. Teicholz has been a journalist for nine years. That's it. The Wall Street Journal is trying to pass her off as an authority in the field of nutrition. No thank you.

I will stick with the advice of the National Institutes of Health, the Mayo Clinic, John Hopkins and the Cleveland Clinic: limit your consumption of saturated fat.

But it doesn't end there. Also reduce your consumption of polyunsaturated fats, found in poultry and most cooking oils. Also reduce your consumption of what we thinking of as the sugars. the "-oses": fructose, glucose, lactose, galactose, with fructose being the chief culprit. Also reduce your consumption of cholesterol. The body produces its own cholesterol. No one needs dietary cholesterol. Avoid anything that is described as "hydrogenated".

Finally, avoid Atkins and journalists positioning themselves as the next Atkins.

A 'tell' of the author's weak grasp on the subject is her statement that triglycerides are harmful. Triglycerides are a symptom, not a cause.

117 posted on 05/04/2014 4:56:38 PM PDT by Praxeologue
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To: Rusty0604

I prefer to drink my carbohydrates.


118 posted on 05/04/2014 5:00:33 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Rusty0604

“Even President Dwight D. Eisenhower suffered a heart attack in 1955”

Which is relevant to nothing. Eisenhower smoked 3 packs of cigarettes a day all the way through World War II when he was the supreme allied commander. It’s not difficult to see that three packs of cigarettes a day are bad for your heart.


131 posted on 05/05/2014 3:52:57 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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