Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

The Questionable Link Between Saturated Fat and Heart Disease
Wall Street Journal ^ | 05/02/2014 | Nina Teicholz

Posted on 05/04/2014 12:04:14 PM PDT by Rusty0604

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 41-6061-8081-100 ... 121-133 next last
To: driftdiver

Yep. Carbs are easier and shelf stable.


61 posted on 05/04/2014 1:57:53 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 54 | View Replies]

To: 9YearLurker

I love taters and bread, but limit my consumption of them.


62 posted on 05/04/2014 2:00:29 PM PDT by mylife
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 60 | View Replies]

To: Rusty0604

I’m totally amazed that so many gullible people never realized the whole fat thing was just a way for everyone and their uncle to make money from obesity and all the other attendant ailments. Look at what people eat who live in remote areas that don’t have many stores, and who do some physical work-they are not obese...

Brought up on a ranch, we ate meat and cheese, fresh veggies and fruit-all fresh from the garden, orchard and livestock. White/refined sugar was believed to be bad, as was bleached flour-my mom and aunts made corn tortillas, not flour ones. There was fresh locally harvested honey, but usually no sugar except raw brown for baking-I live in the country now, where free range meat is still available, and I grow veggies-so I still eat that way. I smoke a cigarette or two every few days, and have an occasional glass of red wine, or a beer-all things in moderation...

Being overweight is not common in the family-I’ve weighed 108-112 since I was 17-and living into one’s 90’s, or to 100 is not uncommon.

I was given a food pyramid by a well-meaning pediatrician when my cub was a baby, just to “be sure” I knew how to feed my kid. I showed it to my aunt who was an herbalist, who threw it in the trash, and I fed her the way I was fed and it all worked out fine-if I’d have listened to that doc, my child would have looked like a “before” ad for Nutrisystem...

I don’t use any kind of drugs, either, prescription or illicit, and seldom even OTC-I was brought up believing they are unnatural and not that good for the body-but I do use natural remedies, vitamins and supplements, and have a job that requires hard, physical work.


63 posted on 05/04/2014 2:01:47 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 9YearLurker

I still don’t buy that the govt doesn’t influence peoples diets. They’ve been working on it for decades.

People don’t watch the food pyramid, except for schools. People choose their food based on cost, taste, and preparation.

Taste is largely irrelevant once behaviors are set. Food we’re used to eating tastes good.


64 posted on 05/04/2014 2:09:22 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 59 | View Replies]

To: mylife

Yep, grains are a treat for me.


65 posted on 05/04/2014 2:10:19 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 62 | View Replies]

To: 9YearLurker

Complex carbs are not so bad a s highly refined carbs.

I love Rye bread.


66 posted on 05/04/2014 2:12:10 PM PDT by mylife
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 65 | View Replies]

To: driftdiver

Again, the influence from subsidies is minimal. Government-subsidized lunches in school have been criminal, but I think five out of 21 meals a week for only 36 weeks a year—for someone who chooses to eat the stuff—only works out to 180 out of 16% of a kid’s meals. The home influence and other 84% of meals eaten is far greater.

Of course, the feds are working toward feeding poor kids breakfast and lunch, including weekends and summers, so they’re aiming to have a far greater influence.


67 posted on 05/04/2014 2:14:59 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 64 | View Replies]

To: mylife

Yes, except now there are some researchers saying that whole grains are actually worse than the traditional stuff. Complex carbs in veggies definitely tend to be better.


68 posted on 05/04/2014 2:16:22 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 66 | View Replies]

To: Cyman

The elephant in the diet room is genetics. It is quite probable that people with different genotypes respond differently to the same diet.


69 posted on 05/04/2014 2:17:47 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: 9YearLurker

I mostly eat meat and veg, but bread is the staff of life.
That or beer.


70 posted on 05/04/2014 2:19:03 PM PDT by mylife
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 68 | View Replies]

To: 9YearLurker

And again you’re looking at it from a simplistic view. Through regulation, food stamps, direct subsidies, indirect subsidies, and a myriad of other methods the govt controls peoples food choices.

They’ve been pumping up grains/carbs/veg oils for decades, and peoples diets are very heavy in those.

It certainly isn’t because the those diets taste good.


71 posted on 05/04/2014 2:19:25 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 67 | View Replies]

To: 9YearLurker

Most of the kids are getting free breakfast too, and many go all summer long, even when la escuela is not in session. At least that’s how it is here in Indiana and we’re not a high welfare spending state per capita.
Also I have discovered there is no reduction in the SNAP if the children get meals at school.


72 posted on 05/04/2014 2:20:06 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 67 | View Replies]

To: 9YearLurker
whole grains are actually worse than the traditional stuff.

How's that again? Whole grains were around long before processed foods.

73 posted on 05/04/2014 2:22:06 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 68 | View Replies]

To: nascarnation

Yes, that’s what I said, the guv is moving to feeding the little brats twice a day, 365 days a year. I’m aware of it more in cities and poor neighborhoods, maybe it’s already more widely implemented than I realized.


74 posted on 05/04/2014 2:27:52 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 72 | View Replies]

To: 9YearLurker

What’s interesting is that many of these underfed starving youts appear to have a BMI in the 30+ range.


75 posted on 05/04/2014 2:29:26 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 74 | View Replies]

To: driftdiver

Actually, it is in part because those diets taste good.

I said that they’ve been pumping the food pyramid for decades, and of course they influence dietary research as well. But the cost subsidies work out to about 10 cents per American per day, so I still hold that that is not a major factor in people’s food choices. Food stamps doesn’t favor unhealthy carbs over more healthy foods—that comes as a result of the recipients’ choices.

The government is a bad actor here, but to dump it all on the bad-actor government is, IMO, simplistic.


76 posted on 05/04/2014 2:30:55 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 71 | View Replies]

To: ConservativeMind

E. coli is definitely a love/hate relationship. They are essential to the lower colon, but anywhere else in the body they are a dangerous risk.

It remains one of the most diverse bacterial species: only 20% of the genome is common to all strains. To put this in perspective, humans and fruit flies share 60% of their genome.


77 posted on 05/04/2014 2:32:32 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: Sherman Logan

That’s the latest theory. Here’s an explanation:

http://dsdaytoday.blogspot.com/2011/10/whole-grains-reduce-mineral-absorption.html

We’ve only been eating grains, whole or otherwise, for a very, very short portion of the evolutionary life of modern humans.


78 posted on 05/04/2014 2:33:53 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 73 | View Replies]

To: nascarnation

Which actually pretty much assures that they have been starved of proper nutrition. (Hint: too many simple carbs.)


79 posted on 05/04/2014 2:35:05 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 75 | View Replies]

To: 9YearLurker

Yes I’m sure you’re correct.


80 posted on 05/04/2014 2:36:15 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 79 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 41-6061-8081-100 ... 121-133 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson