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Humans May Have Dispersed Out of Africa Earlier Than Thought
LiveScience ^ | April 21, 2014 | Charles Q. Choi

Posted on 04/21/2014 4:04:04 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

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To: JoeProBono

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmILHgNhh5c


41 posted on 04/22/2014 5:32:09 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: SunkenCiv; Alas Babylon!

Thanks for the map. Any idea if the “green areas”are accurate, i.e. no deserts? (except, of course, under the ice sheets.)

If there was a land bridge, that route from Northern Kenya & Ethiopia would be easier that through the mountains of Ethiopia.

Anyone have a map of what the Rift Valley volcanoes were doing at the time? Increased volcanic activity may have herded folks to the NE toward the Arabian Peninsila.

This is interesting:

“The coastal route around the western Mediterranean may have been open at times during the last glacial; speleothems grew in Hol-Zakh and in Nagev Tzavoa Caves. Comparison of speleothem formation with calcite horizons suggests that the wet periods were limited to only tens or hundreds of years.[6]

From 60–30 kya there were extremely dry conditions in many parts of Africa.[7]
Last Glacial Maximum

An example of the Saharan pump has occurred after the Last Glacial Maximum (LGM). During the Last Glacial Maximum the Sahara desert was more extensive than it is now with the extent of the tropical forests being greatly reduced.[8] “

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sahara_pump_theory


42 posted on 04/22/2014 7:54:13 AM PDT by BwanaNdege
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To: SunkenCiv
Bingo! One of the problems with the out of Africa Theory is that it makes no sense. You find a few bones in the Afar region and we instantly originated there.

What happens if we find bones else where, which seems to be happening, and they don't relate to the bones found in the Afar region?

Then we find bones that belong to hominids that we had no clue that existed.

Years ago I read a book, “ The Washing Of The Spears”, about the Zulu, Bantu, in South Africa. It seemed that they arrived at the Orange about the same time as the Dutch.

The author stated that they had centuries to occupy a Continent but were to slow.

This peaked my interest and I did a lot of reading. The Pygmies where in Niger during Pharonic times, Herodotus, “The Histories”.

Another thing that caught my attention is that the Bushmen, the Hottentots, and the Adman Islanders, for example, seemed to have been pushed South West and West by pressure from the North East, I have no theory but it seems strange.

43 posted on 04/22/2014 9:18:21 AM PDT by Little Bill (EVICT Queen Jean)
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To: SunkenCiv

AKA who pays the piper calls the tune.


44 posted on 04/22/2014 9:59:39 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: BwanaNdege
I don't know, Bwana... The straights of Gibraltar are really, really deep. My understanding is they are so deep Nazi subs could hug the bottom and slip thru to the Mediterranean even with the Royal Navy almost on top of them. According to Wikipedia they are from 980 to 2950 feet deep.

Still, I'll bet they could have used rafts.

The Australian Aboriginals were in Australia about 50,000 BC, and there was never a complete bridge. I think the closest land approach would still require a 26 mile water journey.

The Wallace Line explains it.

45 posted on 04/22/2014 10:17:14 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: BwanaNdege
Just out of curiosity, how did the early “beachcomber” humans get from “Africa”to the Arabia Peninsula? Once there, how did they survive the journey?

Walk up the eastern African coast to Suez, then down the Arabian coast. There have been points in history where the region probably had more rain than it has now, with good vegetation in what is currently desert.

46 posted on 04/22/2014 10:32:02 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: BwanaNdege

The Red Sea being almost cut off like that jogs a memory — a hypothesis (antedates the “Noah’s Flood” thing of Ryan and Pitman) that there was an actual barrier during the lower ocean level, long-term, and the water wasn’t being replenished, the whole thing dried out, got rained on during the glaciation and the whole dried out basin became a warm, verdant paradise, which survived in myth as “Eden” and whatnot — and the Great Flood was actually when the earthen barrier gave away and/or the ocean level rose as the glaciers melted and ran off into the seas.

http://www.varchive.org/itb/rift.htm

http://www.varchive.org/itb/deadsea.htm


47 posted on 04/22/2014 4:08:12 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Alas Babylon!; BwanaNdege

Neanderthal Man Floated Into Europe, Say Spanish Researchers
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1559199/posts

Neanderthals were ancient mariners
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2853535/posts


48 posted on 04/22/2014 4:12:19 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Little Bill

‘Oldest Sculpture’ Found In Morocco (400K Years Old)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/916512/posts

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49 posted on 04/22/2014 4:59:41 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Little Bill
You find a few bones in the Afar region and we instantly originated there.

Yep. That's the problem with "science by media" which appeals to the egos of many current researchers. I think much of this "Out of Africa" stuff began with the Leakeys who hyped their work via National Geographic Magazine. NG, as we know, is as politically correct as it gets.

I look at the vast areas of Earth's surface that haven't yet been systematically investigated and common sense tells me we know only a little of the human origin story.

50 posted on 04/22/2014 6:45:01 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: Alas Babylon!

26 miles across the sea?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJM61CTenss

(please forgive the flippancy )

:-)


51 posted on 04/22/2014 7:06:22 PM PDT by BwanaNdege
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To: SunkenCiv; Dogbert41
Yeah, a child could come to that conclusion if sufficiently misled.

Would you mind expanding on your catty remark. I don't know what to make of it except you may be trying to cut off debate on the subject, but I'm speculating. As one who has appeared to be generally skeptical of much of what the Scientific Community™ spews, you make short shrift of a skeptical comment from another Freeper. What's up with that???

52 posted on 04/22/2014 9:58:26 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (What part of "Fundamentally transforming the United States of America" don't the LIV understand?)
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