Posted on 04/14/2014 6:57:22 AM PDT by B4Ranch
By Staff Report - April 14, 2014
Nevada Rancher: 'The Citizens Of America' Got My Cattle Back ... After a tense standoff with the Bureau of Land Management, the Nevada Rancher at the center of the disagreement proclaimed that "the citizens of America" got his cattle back. Rancher Cliven Bundy reached a deal with the BLM Saturday allowing the cattle that had been removed from the BLM land to be released back onto the federal lands. But Bundy is still on the hook for the fees he owes for having the animals on the land in the first place. "There is no deal here. The citizens of America and Clark County went and took their cattle. There was no negotiations. They took these cattle. They are in possession of these cattle and I expect them to come home soon," Bundy told KLAS-TV. – CBS
Dominant Social Theme: The revolution has begun.
Free-Market Analysis: Some in the alternative media have been celebrating the defeat of the Bureau of Land Management, which unsuccessfully attacked rancher Cliven Bundy for not paying grazing fees. This analysis attempts to ascertain the importance of the Bundy "victory."
After national coverage and the convergence of numerous US citizens on the Bundy ranch to show their support, BLM backed down. They removed the armed enforcers, their trucks and even, reportedly, gave back the cattle that were confiscated.
Alex Jones celebrated at Infowars, and Drudge posted numerous headlines on the affair. The controversy expanded when it was reported that BLM was moving on Bundy in part to open up land for an expanding Chinese solar farm.
Here's more:
The standoff Saturday brought hundreds of protesters who attempted to storm the BLM's cattle gate, but weren't successful. Some protesters were even armed with weapons. I-15 was closed in both directions at one point because protesters were blocking the freeway.
Roughly two dozen police officers and a SWAT unit were at the scene in Mesquite to help keep the peace. "We had a lot of fears. Individuals being shot, trampled. Individuals being run over on the highway. So it took a lot of resources, a lot of resources to associate with this," Assistant Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo said to KLAS-TV.
The fight between Bundy and the Bureau of Land Management widened into a debate about states' rights and federal land-use policy. The dispute that ultimately triggered the roundup dates to 1993, when the bureau cited concern for the federally protected tortoise in the region. The bureau revoked Bundy's grazing rights after he stopped paying grazing fees and disregarded federal court orders to remove his animals.
... The 400 cows gathered during the roundup were short of the BLM's goal of 900 cows that it says have been trespassing on U.S. land without required grazing permits for over 20 years. Bundy, 67, doesn't recognize federal authority on land he insists belongs to Nevada.
His Mormon family has operated a ranch since the 1870s near the small town of Bunkerville and the Utah and Arizona lines. "Good morning America, good morning world, isn't it a beautiful day in Bunkerville?" Bundy told a cheering crowd after his cattle were released, according to the Las Vegas Review-Journal.
The crowd protesting Saturday recited the pledge of allegiance, and many offered prayers. Others waved placards reading, "This land is your land," and "We teach our children not to bully. How do we teach our government not to be big bullies?" according to the newspaper.
It's the latest skirmish since the 1980s when the Sagebrush Rebellion challenged federal ownership of Nevada rangeland ranchers said was rightfully theirs. A federal judge in Las Vegas first ordered Bundy to remove his trespassing cattle in 1998.
Despite the current state of affairs, BLM's decision to disengage may not be as final and decisive as it first appears. Its press release said as much. There are numerous other ranchers who interact regularly with the BLM, and if the Bundy capitulation is seen as precedent-setting then the US federal government might lose control of lands that fedgov has been acquiring for decades.
The US federal government's power is vastly enhanced by land management and the federal government is said to control up to one-third of US lands in the "lower 48." There are at least three reasons why land control is so important.
Such control ...
Every part of the US governmental apparatus is at risk if the Bundys can claim a continued victory. Any single setback of this magnitude threatens to unravel the entire laboriously constructed system of federal legislative, judicial and executive command.
The entire globalist edifice depends on ever-expanding government control of the private sector. If the power elite running Western governments behind the scenes cannot count on expanding and untrammeled government authority then the whole internationalist agenda is put at risk.
So while it was inspiring to see people on horseback facing down BLM enforcers, the chances that significant change will be engendered via these kinds of confrontations is certainly questionable.
One can even argue that top elites are actively hoping for the kind of chaos and civil destruction that such dramatic clashes will inevitably give rise to. One could even ask if the Bundy confrontation itself was manufactured.
We are sure that real change will come as people take individual human action to opt out of the system – psychologically as well as professionally. This, in fact, IS happening as a natural occurrence of the current information revolution. Elite memes are crumbling; dominant social themes such as global warming are increasingly rejected. Even the war on terror has not proven convincing.
Societies usually do not crumble via internal, physical revolution that only provides a justification for a bigger and more invasive police state. Societies DO collapse when people lose their belief that the sociopolitical and economic structure is beneficial to them.
What has been set into motion by the Internet Reformation has decades to go yet. Government authorities have every reason to fight the physical confrontations manifested by the Internet – and no doubt they will. But it is the larger and likely unstoppable shift in citizen sentiment regarding basic building blocks of society that shall create real change.
This change will not happen so dramatically as recent events, and will evolve out of the dissemination of knowledge about the Way the World Really works. One need only consider the sociopolitical and economic conversation today in the West – especially in the US – versus a decade ago. The differences are startling. They will continue even if more visible evidences of resistance are defused.
The Internet is a process not an episode.
>>The govt will not only do this, they will reappear in a massive show of force shutting down roads for miles with a clear delineated perimeter - then, and only then will the govt/contracted (deniability) snipers get the green light....far away from the cameras.<<
I see you have no idea what the countryside is like out in Mesquite. Strangers stand out like forest fires on a mountain side. The locals know everyone in the County.
Just how do you think they would even get into the area undetected? In areas where .50 BMG’s are considered normal varmint rifles and reloading is as common as hardsoled shoes, that is not a choice area to be sniping at the local citizenry.
Highways can be blocked with a single semi. Park it sideways and shoot the tires out. One road blocked in two minutes flat.
I’m afraid this superior force idea has too many major weak points.
well, lets hope Im wrong....then you can have your I told you so moment
Are you saying in a couple of years that America will no longer exist? Because there’s a few hotspots here and there doesn’t mean the nation is lost. I see the feral Blacks in the major cities as more of a concern than Bundys cattle vs the BLM.
bookmark Bundy background
I’m praying that everyone maintains a solid control over their trigger fingers. Criminals and illegal aliens kill enough everyday as it is. We don’t need sharpshooters civilian or government sponsored adding to the count.
That’s the reason I have been posting http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3144181/posts?page=22#22 these posts. There’s a lot of good info about long range shooting and ballistic selection in these videos. They can turn a former 300 yard shooter into a 1000 yard expert in a couple of weeks for the price of 200 rounds of ammo.
The better equipped we are the less likely that government employees or mercenaries will decide to have a shoot out with us. I don’t see most LEO’s or three letter agency as wanting to engage in a shootout with American citizens. Not many public service jobs are worth dying for when your only reward is a pension after 30 years.
No I’m saying its not going to take decades to restore the Constitutional Republic. We are almost at a tipping point. People are furious.
Geez...this is only basketball.
[It was probably a crowd estimate by the same yahoos who *estimate* the number of CCDL pro-gun supporters on the same landscape a few days ago.]
Gun owners need to keep alert during this troubling time, even if we are not in the west.
Haha! Talk about leading from behind, that guy takes the cake. I caught a little of that on Saturday. He led all the cars up to the freeway then pulled over and let everyone go ahead. Then he stops short of the scene with the press people and starts to move toward the bridges and all the action. THEN... all of a sudden, his batteries are dying and he starts back to the car going in the opposite direction, as the crowds and the cowboys are showing up, and he proceeds to sit by his car, while his batteries are charging and waves into his camera occasionally as the stand-off unfolds back down the road, out of sight.
C'MON, GUYS, LET'S ROLL!.... uh, you guys go first, I'll be right behind you.
What an embarrassing loser...
Agreed, with the caveat that they're *all* a concern.
The easiest way for the Feds to overwhelm opposition is to attack at all points, at once. While you're worrying about some rioter breaking into your house and carting off your daughter, you're not so concerned about a gov't land grab 1/2 a continent away.
Now, is someone orchestrating all this? I doubt it. It's just a matter of putting enough of the "right-thinking" people in the right places. They act as one, as if they're co-ordinated, but it's hardly the case.
Like the current IRS flap. Do I think that BO gave the IRS a list of Tea Party groups to target? Not likely (he's certainly arrogant enough, but not smart or motivated enough....). BUT .... enough Democrat hacks and lackeys are appointed in the bureaucracy, so that someone, somewhere need only to comment "Boy, it sure would be nice if......." and the hacks are off and running.
I've said it a number of times. The problem isn't BO...he's just an opportunist. The problem is the bureaucracy that supports him, and a population who would vote him in.
lol.
I was reading the coverage on this - UK newspaper, of course, can't get good info from US MSM. The photos that were published of the patriots who were there were of some seriously hard folks.
They were far from primping for the cameras and making a few speeches. No keyboard commandos, here. It was pretty plain that they were there for a reason and meant business.
Made me wonder what the minutemen at Lexington and Concord looked like.
I saw that post - useful info - thanks
There’s not enough of them to attack at all points, at once. 4 million against 400 million. Sorry but that’s a losing fight.
It doesn't matter how much time... It doesn't matter for legal twists and turns... Anyone who thinks this will turn out any different from here on in doesn't understand what happens when rednecks hit 'oh, hell no!' territory. That Bundy Ranch will stay put now (to include every bit of range that he owns the water on) pretty much forever.
Them cowboys ain't gonna back up no more. Not one inch. Force will be met with force, even if there is no chance of winning. This isn't about law anymore. It is about right and wrong. They won't be convinced otherwise, no matter what. Nor their sons, nor their grandsons.
The only thing the feds can do is leave it alone... Completely alone... And hope folks forget about it enough that they can set their precedents some other way. Do anything else, and those cowboys will back their word.... and if they do and get stepped on, I bet Nevadans will too - and maybe the Desert Southwest... Make a big enough stink and the Rockies will rise up too - I guarantee it.
Push has come to shove, and now there ain't no backing down, whether the feds and all y'all know it or not.
I know it and I assume anyone who is familiar with cowboys knows it.
Civilian drones. Satellite feeds. Live pictures.
They won't. They have to demonstrate who's boss. Look for a Shock and Awe confrontation before 2014 is out.
We’re gonna see some confusing breaking news footage of flashing blue lights off in the distance in the middle of the night and hear of no-knock raids for the usual suspects of domestic narco-terrorists dressed up like militia members.
He has to sell the cows sooner or later. Once he does the feds will seize the proceeds from his bank account.
Personally, I feel it is much more likely this will be a direct, escalated and violent encounter. The fascism powers must show their testicles.
I disagree. They know how Waco looked on the evening news and they don’t want a repeat. They’ll bide their time, wait for Bundy to sell his stock, then swoop in and leave him without a dime to his name and drive him out of business that way.
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