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The Walking Dead Postmortem:
tvguide ^ | Natalie Abrams

Posted on 04/06/2014 10:03:07 AM PDT by virgil283

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To: Hot Tabasco
"Morgan was the holder of a nuclear warhead in another post apocalypse series that I thought was very good. Was it Jerico?".....

...was that the same guy?

Jerico started off very good and got bogged down. ....[sorry to those who liked it]

61 posted on 04/06/2014 2:56:20 PM PDT by virgil283 (When the sun spins, the cross appears, and the skies burn red)
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To: IronJack
Yeah, because the "Walking Dead" is haute cinema. It started out as a zombie show. Now it's nothing more than a soap opera playing out against a backdrop of zombies.

I think it would be even worse if it was ONLY about zombies all the time. The first two seasons, it pretty much WAS all about surviving zombies with a little character development sprinkled in. The "soap opera" aspect seems to have been a successful genre for the last thirty or so years, so why not use it to develop characters and their everyday lives in the zombiefide world to keep the series fresh? I'm okay with it.

62 posted on 04/06/2014 2:56:38 PM PDT by boatbums (Simul justis et peccator.)
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To: boatbums

Zombies don’t appear to be a threat at Terminus for some reason. I wonder if eating people masks their scent like Michonne’s pets did.


63 posted on 04/06/2014 2:57:34 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Patriot Babe

I’m watching that too. I DVR it to watch after Walking Dead. Very good show so far. Now there’s a new show, Turn, that’s coming on in the WD timeslot, so I’ll DVR that one as well.


64 posted on 04/06/2014 2:59:54 PM PDT by murron (Proud Mom of a Marine Vet)
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To: virgil283

A stand alone movie I liked was “Book of Ely” Ely played by Denzell Washington carried the bible across post apocalyptic America.


65 posted on 04/06/2014 3:02:13 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: IronJack

You don’t have to be haute cinema to have plot, you just just need a writers room that takes pride in their work. David Crane says all plot is soap opera, because soap opera is about making the audience care about the day to day lives of your characters.


66 posted on 04/06/2014 3:12:58 PM PDT by discostu (Call it collect, call it direct, call it TODAY!)
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To: IronJack
Where’s the great dilemma? If there are any issues, they’re logistical, not moral.

If it's that simple and so difficult for you to watch, then why are you watching it?

More importantly, the TWD threads have been running for the entire length of the series so why are you just now jumping in to dump on it?

67 posted on 04/06/2014 3:18:29 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Under Reagan spring always arrived on time.....)
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To: cripplecreek
A stand alone movie I liked was “Book of Ely”

I agree, "The Book of Eli " was the best post apocalyptic move I have ever seen..........

Lots of internet forum talk about Eli being blind but there is really no evidence of that being the case..........

68 posted on 04/06/2014 3:22:15 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Under Reagan spring always arrived on time.....)
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To: IronJack

The “dilemma” is that kill zombies and survive isn’t a good plot for a TV show. It’s fine for a movie of an hour and a half to 2 hours, but for 16 episodes of a TV show it’ll get boring fast. There’s no story, there’s no engagement, there’s reason to turn in next week because once you’ve seen 3 episodes you’ve seen EVERY episode. There’s always moral dilemmas, every half way decent zombie movie remember there are non-good people in the world and your survivors will have to deal with them as well as zombies, it’s a vital issue in the genre.


69 posted on 04/06/2014 3:26:56 PM PDT by discostu (Call it collect, call it direct, call it TODAY!)
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To: Hot Tabasco

I think the implication that he was blind comes from the fact that the bible he was carrying was in braile. After all, Carnegie did get the book but it was useless to him because the blind woman refused to read it for him.

Really an interesting movie in the sense that it put a positive spin on some pretty Christian themes like Eli being protected and empowered by God. Naturally the critics hated it.


70 posted on 04/06/2014 3:33:26 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek
"A stand alone movie I liked was “Book of Ely”

Ditto that...and another is "I Am Legend" - Will Smith...

71 posted on 04/06/2014 3:40:22 PM PDT by virgil283 (When the sun spins, the cross appears, and the skies burn red)
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To: discostu
there are non-good people in the world

Remember Rule 2: Survive. If there are non-good people in the world and they mess with you, you kill them too. Simple. But noooooooo, Rick and his crew of crybabies have to agonize over it, spend countless hours second-guessing themselves and babbling on and on about "what kind of world this will become ..." Dude, I got news for you: whatever kind of world it's about to become, it ALREADY IS!

So just shut up about it already and do what you have to do. Please, no more moralizing and twaddle about sacrifice and loyalty and all that hooey. Kill your enemies and move on!

72 posted on 04/06/2014 3:53:48 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: Hot Tabasco
why are you just now jumping in to dump on it?

Because even though it declined badly last season, I thought maybe that was a fluke and that it would recover. Far from it. This season just brought more inane drivel and ludicrous moral angst.

There was no reason to "dump on it" before. Now, there's getting to be less and less reason to watch it.

As to why I continue to watch? I guess hope springs eternal. But if the next season reeks as bad as this one, I won't have too much difficulty deciding.

73 posted on 04/06/2014 3:56:46 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: IronJack

But how do you know who the non-good people are? That’s the central dilemma of the show. If you’re going to rebuild society you need people, more people that your current survivor group, but some of those people might be no good, they might try to take over your group, they might just be there to steal from your group. But maybe the people trying to take over aren’t bad, maybe you should let them take over. Maybe the thieves aren’t bad, maybe they’ve kids over the hill they’re trying to feed.

They SHOULD agonize over it, because that’s what SANE people would do. They’re trying to rebuild society, and you can’t rebuild society as a group of murderers. Sane people have a problem with killing, even in self defense.

But who is the enemy? Remember most folks in Woodbury had no idea the Governor was a sleezebag, if you kill all of them you’re killing good people, people that could have been allies if they had information (people that became allies).

The moralizing is where the plot is. The moralizing is where the interesting story is. The moralizing is where the thinking is. What you want is Zombie Stripper the series, you should just watch that movie every week.


74 posted on 04/06/2014 4:26:15 PM PDT by discostu (Call it collect, call it direct, call it TODAY!)
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To: IronJack
As to why I continue to watch?


75 posted on 04/06/2014 4:39:14 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Under Reagan spring always arrived on time.....)
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To: Valpal1

I have a lot of crazy dreams, too. They’re entertaining, LOL.

A wedding gown made out of acid-washed denim, huh? Yep....definitely a nightmare. ;)


76 posted on 04/06/2014 4:47:32 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Not a chance, I only stuck out this season to see Rick die. If he bit it, I was willing to maybe watch it again.


77 posted on 04/06/2014 5:33:16 PM PDT by packrat35 (Pelosi is only on loan to the world from Satan. Hopefully he will soon want his baby killer back)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Any penetration of the skull, however slight, ensures TWD zombie death. I noticed early on that its a rule they are going with. Don’t worry about the brain stem, a 2” incursion into the frontal lobe instantly kills a zombie, even though its quite survival for a living person.


78 posted on 04/06/2014 6:06:47 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: SampleMan

LOL! Maybe it’s like a game of tag for the zombies, like if their head is merely nicked with a knife they say “OK you got me” and immediately drop.


79 posted on 04/06/2014 6:41:59 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Republican has "I can" at the end. Democrat has "rat". Any questions?)
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To: saleman
IT’S NOT REAL. IT’S A T.V. SERIES!!!!

Next you are going to expect us to believe that wrestling isn't real either!

80 posted on 04/06/2014 6:50:17 PM PDT by verga (Poor spiritual health is often manifested with poor physical health.)
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