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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Yeah, really -- unless you've repealed the first law of thermodynamics. Your suggestions are in total denial of the thermodynamic perspective. I think I'll stick with established science.

People lose weight because they burn more calories than they consume. It has always been this way. I suspect that the low carb diet is, for the most part, a low calorie diet.

Michael Phelps would devour 12,000 calories a day, mostly from carbs, when he was in training. According to you, he's an obese slob.

153 posted on 04/06/2014 12:00:08 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Mase
Your suggestions are in total denial of the thermodynamic perspective. I think I'll stick with established science.

Not exactly, the fat doesn't create an instant insulin reaction the second your tongue tastes it... but sugar/starch does. So do artificial sweeteners, because the body thinks it's sugar.

People lose weight because they burn more calories than they consume. It has always been this way. I suspect that the low carb diet is, for the most part, a low calorie diet.

No, it isn't.

But because most readily available food is loaded with flour or sugar, or both, and that's what most people eat. They get up, have some cereal or toast, coffee with cream and sugar, on the way to work, pick up another sugar loaded coffee and a donut or bagel, and that holds them till coffee break where they eat some cinnamon rolls with their next sugar laden coffee.

Then they have pizza and chips for lunch with a large Pepsi. Grab a couple of beers on the way home from work and then have a huge dinner of spaghetti and meatballs, and garlic bread.

Unless they are an athlete, they can't possibly burn all of it off.

On the cave-man, or God diet, you cut out all man made carbohydrate based "foods" and just stick to meat, seafood, butter and vegetables, shunning starchy vegetables and fruits. Nothing out of a box or bag.

You can have all the fat you want....Although I doubt you'd be likely to eat enough fat to equal all the calories I described above.

The "junk food" industry is based on products that are cheap to make, easy to consume, and quick to digest, which leave you hungry sooner, also when you add the sugar/carb crash to the equation, people are literally addicted to their eating habits.

155 posted on 04/06/2014 2:05:04 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: Mase

BTW, I low carb right now. I consume FIVE HUNDRED calories a day MORE than I did when I was low fat dieting. I also weigh EIGHTY POUNDS LESS.

Go figure. Instead of black coffee with splenda at breakfast with a low fat/low calorie granola bar I now have coffee with whole cream, 2 egg omelette cooked in BUTTER and folded over 2oz of CHEESE! for breakfast. What riches!

The rest of the day an it’s dietary differences is pretty much the same.

Try it sometimes.

BTW, my cholesterol went down 40%, my LDL halved and my HDL nearly doubled. With NO meds! My BP was 105/75 the last time it was checked (was 140/95 on the low fat diet and low sodium as well) and my A1C runs below 5 (it was 13+ when it was first tested, while I was low fat dieting).

Try that with your high carb/low fat diet sometimes.


163 posted on 04/07/2014 2:17:26 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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