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A Teacher's Take on Common Core (Vanity)
My seething mind | 31MAR14 | Moi

Posted on 03/31/2014 8:27:20 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady

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To: A_perfect_lady
Our Founding Fathers apparently never imagined that conservatives would leave education to the liberals. But we have done that. And now we are reaping the roosting chickens, if you get my meaning.

sorry, but that is not an excuse for embracing the evils of Big Government.
101 posted on 03/31/2014 11:16:14 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: A_perfect_lady

“CONSERVATIVES REFUSE TO BECOME TEACHERS”

Could there be some selection in the colleges that train teachers? Like “conservatives never get good grades”?

When I was in school, the only way I’d get an A from my English profs was to couch everything in Marxist terms. If I didn’t, C- or D. Once I figured that out I aced every class.


102 posted on 03/31/2014 11:28:26 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: A_perfect_lady

Your comments are thoughtful. Thank you.

I don’t think you have been in education long enough to have gone through their *national standards* revisions.

Millions were spent on workshops, training, re-writing curriculums and assessments.

Our state of Ct had a whole web site devoted to collecting and making available lesson plans submitted by teachers to peer review.

Poof! All that disappeared....down the drain. Now there is CC....same old with a *new* name.

One thing you will learn, is that if you stay in the game long enough....you’ll be around for all the pendulum swings. Of that you can be certain.

My GD [grade 5] started taking the CC last week...I’m paying particular attention. Her district calls it the *Better Balance* test ....we nicknamed it the *Margarine* test.

It going to take a while for the teachers to revamp their lessons to begin *teaching to this test*. Only recently have professional evaluations been linked to student test scores. That, in itself, opens a whole host of problems for cheating. In my 33 years, I saw it and that won’t go away anytime soon.

Best of luck!


103 posted on 03/31/2014 12:11:18 PM PDT by Daffynition ("If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right." ~ Henry Ford)
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To: DBrow
Could there be some selection in the colleges that train teachers? Like “conservatives never get good grades”?

It depends on the college and the Prof. I stood toe to toe with many of mine and did not suffer. Of course I was in a College with a Vocational Education program, and the libs knew they had to be on their best behavior.

104 posted on 03/31/2014 12:31:25 PM PDT by verga (Poor spiritual health is often manifested with poor physical health.)
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To: A_perfect_lady

Ping for later reading by Mrs Zippo, the English teacher.


105 posted on 03/31/2014 12:40:18 PM PDT by Zippo44 (Liberal: another word for poltroon.)
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To: A_perfect_lady

Did you watch the video?


106 posted on 03/31/2014 1:27:35 PM PDT by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: A_perfect_lady

“I was in the military for 11 years, “

Oh, in that case, after your 11-yrs of service I am surprised that you do not understand the military is not under Orwellian central control, that it is heavily reliant on “local” control (commanders) rather than a one-size fits all approach.

Centralize control along with centralized execution is folly (like centralized control and execution of education).

“For some things, you need the Federal government...”

Indeed, to protect our God given rights from an abusive central all-powerful government.

“otherwise, why have it at all? Why even be The United States? Why not just be 50 different countries?”

(You are aware we are a collection of sovereign states, a collection of “united states,” and we have the Guard in each state.)

At any rate, good Lord. It is clear you need a refresher on the role of the federal government, our constitution, our founding principles and the proper role of the federal government.

(Hint: The federal government is not there for The People to serve, it is there to serve The People).

,


107 posted on 03/31/2014 2:02:12 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: A_perfect_lady

From another FR thread:

http://www.ijreview.com/2014/03/125409-crazily-scary-common-core-problem-asks/


108 posted on 03/31/2014 2:13:21 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: A_perfect_lady

No. The Soviets were not in favor of leaving education to the liberals.

They were in favor of leaving education to the government.

Which is really what is at the core of “Common Core”. That is precisely why many conservatives dislike it.


109 posted on 03/31/2014 2:47:56 PM PDT by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: A_perfect_lady

I watched my daughter’s class take a common core spelling test the other day. It was all multiple guess. This was a third grade class. It is funny because my daughter’s homework from the night before was for me to give her a spelling test. An old fashioned spelling test. But the Common Core supplied test did not require students to write the words at all.


110 posted on 03/31/2014 2:51:00 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: Politicalkiddo

I hope you got The Fountainhead. That’s actually the best one. I mean, Atlas Shrugged is her magnum opus, but it’s very long. The Fountainhead is a little more accessible and gets the point across just as well, IMHO.


111 posted on 03/31/2014 2:55:02 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: SoConPubbie
but that is not an excuse for embracing the evils of Big Government.

In case you haven't noticed, Big Government is embracing you. From behind.

112 posted on 03/31/2014 2:57:50 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: DBrow

I don’t know... I’ve heard that, but my experience was that well-written papers get a good grade, period. Of course, I used to wear my cammie jacket and steel-toed boots to school, and one of my professors was overhead to say “I’m afraid she’s going to kill me in the stairwell one dark night,” so that might have worked in my favor.


113 posted on 03/31/2014 2:59:15 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: Hulka

Education is not under “Orwellian control” either. I’ve been doing it for 10 years. You know what? You can lecture me all you want, but I’m the one who is actually IN it. I was in the Navy, and now I’m in LAUSD, and I’ll rely on my own data, not your remarks, thank you.


114 posted on 03/31/2014 3:03:39 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: Politicalkiddo

I am so sorry.


115 posted on 03/31/2014 3:04:12 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: Focault's Pendulum

F? All good answers if you ask me! lol


116 posted on 03/31/2014 3:06:16 PM PDT by Fledermaus (I support Joe Carr in the TN GOP Primary against Lamar!)
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To: A_perfect_lady

I went to southern Calif schools in the 60’s (elementary around the Ojai area). We didn’t need any CC or NCLB, etc.


117 posted on 03/31/2014 3:07:49 PM PDT by Fledermaus (I support Joe Carr in the TN GOP Primary against Lamar!)
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To: A_perfect_lady
In case you haven't noticed, Big Government is embracing you. From behind.

You're on the wrong site if you are going to argue for Big-Government solutions beyond those issues that are defined in the constitution as powers or issues under federal control.

And I have news for you, Education isn't one of them, but you knew that already, didn't you?!
118 posted on 03/31/2014 3:10:35 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: A_perfect_lady

I will say as well, I think it is unfair to label conservatives in general, and Freepers in particular, as being anti-government.

Most conservatives are anti-BIG Government.

We understand that government is necessary and has (or should have) clearly enumerated functions. Most of us understand the necessity, recognize that there is a balance to strive for, and in general, have given it deeper thought than our political adversaries.


119 posted on 03/31/2014 3:10:49 PM PDT by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: rlmorel

Are you the one wanting me to watch this Bill Whittle video?


120 posted on 03/31/2014 3:11:58 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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