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To: Leonard210
I respond the way I am responded to. That’s not going to change.

No, Leonard210, you do not respond as a normal person does. You are unhinged and psychotic. Your brain is fried and has short circuits. I responded that no one believes Steve Jobs was pure as snow. Your response is that you found a singular obsessive belief that he was pure in motive and in deed, and that attracted trolls like you to these threads. Yet you offer absolutely no proof, none whatsoever.

You are a troll, evil in motive and deed. You're a troublemaker who twists statements given to you, and spits them back in unrecognizable form.

Because you do not respond in normal fashion (despite your lies to the contrary), this will be the last time I respond directly to you. You are beyond hope, you are pathetic. Crawl out from under your rock, I will step around you, as I do not wish to soil my shoes. Pejoratives enough.

291 posted on 05/12/2014 10:12:00 AM PDT by roadcat
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To: roadcat

I post in context and link every one of my quotes to their source. I realize that’s something that you are not familiar with in Nikkoland. You started by posting pejoratives, found a minor flaw in my reading and I have since corrected it. Yet rather than debate Steve Jobs actual words, you revert to pejoratives.

“Kara: Do you have any comments about what’s going on at Foxconn, because of all the press.”

“Jobs: Oh sure, we’re pretty on the top of that. I actually think Apple does one of the best jobs of any companies in our industry and maybe in any industry of understanding the working conditions in our supply chain. We’re extraordinarily diligent and extraordinarily transparent about it. You can go on our website and read our report that we publish once a year. And we go into these suppliers and we go into their secondary and tertiary suppliers. Places where nobody’s ever gone before and audited them before. We’re pretty rigorous about it.”

So I can tell you a few things that we know. And we’re all over this. Foxconn is not a sweatshop. I mean, you go to this place and, it’s a factory, but my gosh, I mean they’ve got restaurants, and movie theaters, and hospitals, and swimming pools, I mean it’s a, for a factory, it’s a pretty nice factory. But they’ve had, if you count the attempted suicides, 13 so far this year. And while that is still, they have four hundred thousand people in this place, so 13 out of four hundred thousand is 26 per year, so far, for four hundred thousand people or you know lets say 7 per hundred thousand people. That’s still under the US suicide rate of 11 per hundred thousand people but it’s really troubling.”

Full-length interview of Apple CEO Steve Jobs at the D8 conference with Walt Mossberg and Kara Swisher, June 7, 2010 (Steve Jobs asked about Foxconn by Kara Swisher at 19:06)
http://live.wsj.com/video/allthingd/70F7CC1D-FFBF-4BE0-BFF1-08C300E31E11.html

Roadcat pointed out that Steve Jobs used the word “attempted” suicides. So Steve Jobs was not copping to actual dead teenagers (I stand corrected), he was copping to 13 teenagers who “tried to be dead” from January to June 2010. That’s a cluster and Steve Jobs knew it. And he knew that you don’t blow off a suicide cluster even if the kids didn’t make it to dead.

He attempted to minimize the importance of the numbers, just as you did, but you don’t erect suicide nets and set up suicide hotlines if you don’t think there is, at the very least, a massive PR problem should any more kids hit the cement.

And you don’t self incriminate.

Steve Jobs was not talking about Nokia or Microsoft or HP or Sony, he was talking about Apple Inc’s response to the suicide “attempts” in Apple Inc’s supply chain...at Foxconn.

Your argument is with Saint Steven of Cupertino and Chief Inspector Jacques Clouswordmaker, not me.


292 posted on 05/12/2014 10:22:02 AM PDT by Leonard210 (Pro-life Creationist, Constitutional Federalist, Deprogrammed Apple Flunky)
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