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To: ransomnote

Unfair? I neither said or implied anything about unfairness.

What I wrote of was misdiagnosis, and further countered the ill-informed claim on this thread that pit bulls were highly likely - or even most likely amongst breeds - to spontaneously attack. If you can’t properly diagnose the problem, you can’t properly address it.

One person implied that lack of threads from poodle attacks meant something about relative frequency of poodle attacks - which is jibberish.

Frankly, the pit bull argument is a similar argument to the domestic violence one between men and women. Women are FAR more likely to initiate domestic violence, and yet men are far more effective (in a bad way) at carrying it out. A proper response to that situation is different than if men were instigating all of it., or alternately, if women were completely incapable of ever harming men.

Likewise, understanding what the issue is with pit bulls is both required in reaching a sane functional resolution, and a political one. When one wrongly implies or asserts that pit bulls are generally crazy monsters just waiting to maul people, that argument may work on the mentally unstable, but it rightly is rejected/dismissed by owners who have first-hand experience with their own dogs. On the other hand, when one points out the tools that the dogs have - without the obvious dumbassery as the argument - and how effective they are at what they were bred to be able to do, even those owners will often concede that point.


45 posted on 03/18/2014 5:49:32 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton

Ah I see you took me up on my offer when I wrote “Then write me another tangential comment.”

“Misdiagnosis?”It’s not rocket science and does not require a hypothesis with double blind test subjects. Data exists proving that public safety is jeapardized by members of the pitbull type dog population in numbers disproportiate to the presence of the breed in the population (they kill and maim more than all other breeds).

“What I wrote of was misdiagnosis, and further countered the ill-informed claim on this thread that pit bulls were highly likely - or even most likely amongst breeds - to spontaneously attack.” More distortion. I just read through the thread again and it’s clear this thread focuses on pitbull killings and maimings.

Your assertion that poodle attacks are not reported because they are not sufficiently sensational is pathetic. Poodle attacks are not news worthy because they fall within the realm of behavior and wounds considered “normal” among civilized societies and domesticated dogs - it’s just not newsworthy because there is insufficient damage and...DEATH to warrant concern. On the other hand, pitbulls are documented in horrific bloodshed and death causing years of reconstructive surgery if the victim(s) are lucky enough to live. I watched a video of a person in shock relating what it was like to see multiple ambulances and police arrive at a scene of extreme bloodshed, she described it as “a war zone.” Can you see how this use of resources, loss of life and limb and psychological horror might push the unimportant “Fluffy the poodle bit the neighbors kid and he had to have 3 stitches but he’s otherwise fine.”

But hey, let’s just agree that you enjoy pretending to have superior logic more than I enjoy refuting you (easily) with documented facts, and call it a day.


48 posted on 03/18/2014 5:10:51 PM PDT by ransomnote
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