Posted on 03/09/2014 7:30:57 PM PDT by fabian
We have a huge problem with ministers of most churches learning intellectually, the bible and the truth, then repeating it to their followers. This is a false and weak representation of God and the very reason we are losing our nation and world!
here you are..take a listen please
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2QylEHLjhM
For your edification...
God is not an intellectual discussion. He is your faith, heart and soul.
Yes...the intellectualization of the bible and God is a big big downfall.
A cult, similar to scientology. Interesting link to wnd.com
http://conwebwatch.tripod.com/stories/2006/wndmasters.html
not at all a cult..I know Roy and he is the furthest thing from a cult that you will find in a church. Actually, many churches are cult like in their mantra of religious singing and emotionalization in that...replacing the real holy spirit with a facsimile feeling of it.
Weak preaching and relying on feelings not facts and not looking at the Bible intellectually is causing the downfall. It also leads to nominal Christians being sucked into cults.
If you cannot debate your faith and defend it intellectually, then you are a target for cults.
I will have to do more research (I have a cult recovery ministry) but according to that article, this group needs to be looked at more closely before I make a determination.
Something about in the last days if they were not shortened even the elect would fall away. The cooperate church lost its way long ago when it turned its back on Torah and the Feasts of the Lord. If you do not know were you come from you have no ideal were you are going. A old Scottish teacher of the Word told me long ago, we will be surprised who in heaven and who is not.
This person says that teaching Jesus is God is a problem. Doesn’t believe in Holy Trinity?
sorry..the holy spirit gives understanding in a magical way. It Is NoT and intellectual experience. Big mistake!
Dave Schrader; hostI just transcribed it last night, still need to check the accuracy of Michael's assertions, and formulate an action plan based on them.
Bob Cranmer; guest, author of The Demon of Brownsville Road
Michael in Los Angeles; caller
D: West of the Rockies, Michael in Los Angeles
M: Thank you for taking my call, Bob?
B: Yes, sir.
M: You're a Catholic now, correct?
B: Yes.
M: And you've were confirmed, sacrament of confirmation?
B: I was Confirmed, yes.
M: Good, that's why you can do exorcisms. I'm a Roman Catholic and I'm an exorcist, from '84 to '90 a colleague of mine and a priest who was a personal friend of John Paul II did research we found out that Catholic laymen who had the Sacrament of Confirmation can do exoticisms on any person, place, thing or situation from anywhere at any time of their choosing.
I've had eight Bishops face to face tell me that I am absolutely correct. They don't want, they will not teach it to laymen. When asked why they said “We don't want the laymen to know they have this tremendous authority and power.” It is your God given right to know that and you can do exorcisms on your children and on the situation and it's gonna lighten up for you, and I will help you.
I just finished not to long ago a seven year exorcism, it was very difficult, it was on a man who was the son of a Costa Nostra Godfather. It was a little bit difficult. Got him turned around and when he passed away he passed away as a Roman Catholic.
D: Michael, let me ask really quickly if I may, you're an exorcist, are you a lay exorcist, or are you...
M: Yes
D: … a Priest?
D: So, a lay exorcist
M: They don't want you to, in other words, the Pope knows the Cardinals know the Bishops know, Priests don't know, they want to keep the layman ignorant of of the fact that the Sacrament of Confirmation is where get the authority and power and that the fact is that you can do exorcisms, incidentally, they hid this knowledge one thousand seven hundred and ninety-four years ago, this year. We found out in 1990 and have been applying it ever since.
I've used it against some very serious politicians, etc. and told them that they were going to lose their next election if they didn't do what God wanted, they chose not to and they lost their next election.
You can use it, it's to be ubiquitous, as much of it as there is prayer there should be exorcism.
D: Michael, wouldn't that actually help people convert to Catholicism? Why would they hide something like that if indeed it empowered you to have the ability to protect yourself from the others especially when the church for many years has not been prepared to deal with exorcisms there wasn't nearly enough exorcists to deal with the onslaught of claims in doing this you would think instead of hiding it they would promote the fact that this is why you should be a Catholic and this how you can protect yourself and you can help in these cases. Why the conspiracy of hiding it in your opinion?
M: I know what it is. Satan and his demons had to do a lot of work to get that concealed and as soon as they concealed it they went after the married priesthood, you see the married priesthood was extensive, in the four hundreds, we had two popes that were married, in the five hundreds it was the last one who was married.
After that they hid that knowledge they wanted to go after the married priesthood because if it was just the celibate priesthood they knew what could happen, they knew the evils that would creep into the church, an in the ten hundreds St Peter Damien talked about all the sodomy that was going on in the church and the monasteries and in the convents and all that.
The reason that they didn't want us to know is because when we spotted the evil we could drive it out ourselves.
I've put a couple priests out myself. I would go to Mass and do an exorcisms about their Mass and they would just leave after about six months.
We laymen with the power and knowledge of exorcism can take care of any of the evils within the Church.
Right now I'm trying to get in touch with the Ukrainian Bishop to call on him to teach exorcism to the Ukrainian people so they can drive the Russians right out of their country by simply doing exorcisms.
Because you are supposed to be able, and I have used it on any person, place, thing or situation from anywhere, at any time of my choosing, just remembering that it's more powerful the closer you are to the object of the exorcism, but you can do it from the other side of the world, and when you get a lot of...
D: But how do you do it from the other side of the world when you had to deal with an up-close exorcism that took you seven years? If you're doing it from the other side of the world how do you factor in the fact of how long that's going to take?
M: When I did the exorcism of seven years he was in San Francisco or in New York or wherever he was and I was in LA.
D: So it was because of the distance that you feel was really keeping you from being successful?
M: Well that was part of the problem but it was a tough exor-, this guy was the son of a Godfather, do you understand what that means?
D: I do.
M: What he had done in his life? wow. What I'm saying is that God has made it available to us now, to return this knowledge to us, and that Bishops have to admit it when you ask that question because if they didn't admit it they would be denying the Holy Spirit, they're not going to do that, there's a difference between concealing something and denying it. So I was face-to-face with these fellows they all had to say “Yes.”.
D: Michael, thank you, we have to go to a break, thank you very much for weighing in and showing us different aspect and a different insight. I appreciate that. Bob? You've worked in the world of politics for many years and have dealt with that, how many politicians do you know that could probably use a good exorcism?
B: [laughs] I guess we could talk about that at length.
D: Is there enough Holy water to scrub the evil out?
B: In Washington DC right now I think there are plenty of candidates there, I say tongue in cheek. Real quick I did learn a lot through this [his own haunted house experience] I'm certainly not looking to have any career in exorcism or ghostbuster, if it's my choice I don't have to deal with this again, I probably will as I have in the past but it would be my choice that this all would become a chapter in my life I'm certainty not looking for a career as an exorcist.
I note the host cut him off just as he was (I believe) getting ready to say that when you get a lot of lay people concentrating on the same exorcism it offsets the distance disadvantage. And the host also misrepresented the exorcism at a distance of the godfather's son as being unsuccessful, just because it wasn't instantaneous.
The Father is the Father...of us all...Jesus included. Jesus made that clear. Period.
//the holy spirit gives understanding in a magical way. It Is NoT and intellectual experience. Big mistake!//
And comments like that are how people fall for cults. I fell for a cult too, but I was 16 and in love and not a Christian (see tagline). God gave us brains and expects us to use them. How do you test the spirits (your feelings) to know they are God or not? The bible never says we are to pray or feel truth but to STUDY to know truth.
The big mistake is trusting people like Roy Masters and not testing him and relying on feelings rather than facts.
So you do reject the Trinity?
Yes, Jesus is Son of God, but his is also divine. The Trinity includes God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. That is what Christians believe. Are you Mormon?
No I do not reject the Trinity. I believe in the Blessed Trinity.
That was directed at Fabian. I know you don’t reject the Trinity.
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