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To: tomkat

Thank you. The floor is about 12 year old. Does $3000 to clean and seal floors and wall for a 700 soft area sound reasonable?( For 2 coats of a water based epoxy seal. )Thanks in advance.


24 posted on 02/27/2014 6:47:42 AM PST by newb2012 (Fear distorts your vision. Often reality is much easier to deal with.)
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To: newb2012

I am two decades past my experience with that. And my father and I did the work so I cannot judge cost to hire.

I don’t like the idea of a water based product to stop water. It could work fine, but I would search for competitive pricing.

I would spend $300 on a quality dehumidifier first and see if that solves your problem, it I had the basement.


28 posted on 02/27/2014 7:21:34 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: newb2012

I would follow Thackey’s recommendations with one exception. The other method prep the floor other than acid wash is to rent a diamond tip buffing wheel. It goes on a floor buffer typically used for removing and applying wax. This is what I did prior to having a professional 4 part epoxy applied. The diamond wheel removes about 1/16” of the concrete surface. This gives you the best surface prep so that the epoxy can adhere to the sanded surface. However, it is very messy and a respirator(not a nuisance mask) is a must. It also takes a lot of strength to handle the buffer when it starts across the floor. It was the toughest rental piece of equipment I have ever used, and I’ve used many.

$3.75 to $4.00/square foot sounds about right to apply an epoxy finish. If you are flexible with color it may save you if they have some material left over from a previous job. I had my kennel floor(130 sq ft) done for $500. I used a left over color. I had another bid for $800. Another for $1500. Make sure they put enough grit in the top seal coat so it is not slippery. Most of these companies will bid a two car garage for $2000-2500 to give you an idea. That is the bulk of their homeowner work.


29 posted on 02/27/2014 7:32:37 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: newb2012
The key info you left out > doing this yourself or having done ?
The following info is for DIY .. prices for having it done can vary wildly .. you'd just have to shop around.
But if time and inclination permit, you can save a ton doing it yourself.

After 12yrs your floor is about as cured as it's gonna get, and a good etching should suffice. The process would typically involve 3 cycles of > etch/rinse, etch/rinse, etch/rinse.
See the product's directions for acid %s, etc.

I've used the following on my own basement, and have been satisfied with the cost/benefit result.
It's a 1200 SF space, with moderate foot traffic and occasional furniture rearranging.

After etching (i use UGL Drylok Etch) is finished and the floor is *thoroughly* dry:

Two coats of a product called Epoxy-Seal, mfg. by SealKrete .. ~5 gal @ $35/gal
Followed by two coats of Clear-Seal, same mfg .. ~4 gal @ $30/gal (the clear coat goes further)

It's been 7 yrs since mine was applied, and still looks great, imho.
The few times something heavy/sharp has been dropped and caused a ding, I do a light spot sanding and the touchup applies/blends seamlessly.
With occasional ding maintenance, I can't see needing a do-over here for at least another 3ish years, and even that would only be as above: light sanding/color/clear.

A big caveat is that I wouldn't use SealKrete for a garage/shop floor .. there you're looking at a major materials expense for industrial duty epoxy.
But for your likely purposes, and assuming no environmental conditions out of the ordinary, it should prove satisfactory.

So for ~700 SF DIY: etching supplies $20, color coat $100, clear coat $100, misc cleaning brushes etc $30 = ~ $250 DIY +/- 20%

31 posted on 02/27/2014 7:59:38 AM PST by tomkat (3%+1)
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