Posted on 02/26/2014 12:02:37 PM PST by fabian
I have been quite appalled at how so very lost the supposed leaders of most of the churches of today are. They purport to represent Jesus' teachings, yet their is outright denial of the very powerful message that satan's grip on us to cause us to sin, is indeed broken. No, rather the ministers of today all over teach a watered down and lying ministry that Jesus merely has saved us from the aweful results of going to hell. Yet, in one simple sentence and act with Mary, when he told her to go and sin no more, he proved his Fathers power over all of us who are slaves of sin. He did not tell her, go and try to not sin, or go and stop practicing sin, as some lame ministers add to the text. He gave her a strong command as an example that we can all follow. The problem is that we once again, as in Jesus' day, have a bunch of blind leaders of the blind, screwing things up for many searching souls. Mr. Johnson of my local mega church, Bethel, is a good example, with his dull and boring speeches that really are just learned biblical intellectualism. Another example is the smaller talk radio show host, "rev." Jesse Lee Peterson, who, actually does teach the real power of Jesus, but also tells people that he has that sin free power. Yet any aware person listening to his oft repeated words and phrases with his markedly monotone and slow delivery, can hear another false spirit masquerading as salvation. Where would we be as a nation if these weak and phoney ministers really had the keys to the kingdom, as the famous and long time talk show host Roy Masters has...a real and authentic path to God, without all of the mental gibberish taught by the churches and even eastern types of meditation. America has a spiritual George Washington who is helping multitudes, truly leading the blind to the light of real freedom and happiness.
I know how Paul how felt. Never quite forgave himself. What a lesson for us today.
You could of very easily been a Charlie Manson follower. I only hope that you wake up. Read the Bible and don't follow any man. It is written.
Once again, you avoid tbd valid issue and vilify the man..and me...and call yourself religious.
No, the Bible does. He is a cult, "babble". Listen, follow the word of God and that means a lot of work other than following the words of a sorcerer. Roy Masters is not the way to eternal life, it in only though Jesus Christ. When I listened to him, he put himself ahead of Christ. So beware.
Amazing how you deflect and cannot deal with the main points of my post. Oh well.
I can see that Roy didn’t teach you much about God’s word. Why do you think that you don’t have to learn it as the bible states that you should?
To learn Gods word in the bible as you would learn any subject is a big mistake and exactly what the devil wants you to do. She the holy the spirit teaches, it does it’s own magic, not needing man’s ego efforts. You have a big pile of learned words with no real turning away from din in your heart. As I stated earlier, the blind leading the blind.
most all churches are led by intellectual, memorized “Christians”...sorry to say. Decent people, but not really leaders.
You should have trusted your own instinct about Jesse Peterson. Fabian is a little wacky about Jesse. Jesse is what he appears...nothing more nothing less. Don’t listen to Fabian about Jesse.
The reason I stopped was because I didn’t think I was doing a good job, and because I didn’t get that many responses. I am thinking of doing it again, because I miss it and I learned so much from the show....I sleep in now :)
The reason I stopped was because I didn’t think I was doing a good job, and because I didn’t get that many responses. I am thinking of doing it again, because I miss it and I learned so much from the show....I sleep in now :)
>> You should have trusted
I haven’t made any conclusions about Jesse; however, I appreciate Fabian sharing his experience and point of view.
Too bad you singled out Jesse to chastise...your motive is exposed...
Understood. Do what works for you.
FWIW, I read your threads, but didn’t always respond. And I often visited his website because of your posts.
Oh, thank you! That makes me feel better. I don’t feel very smart, i didn’t have threads like Levine adnglenn beck’s threads...but thanks.
A church can claim tax exempt status without being a 501C3, but the staff is personally liable for all actions. We couldn't allow that, could we? Accountable and responsible leaders? Imagine the horror!
Why on earth is it too bad that I mentioned the only “reverend”...and no one is reverend besides God...that actually misrepresents the most very holy state of salvation, being free of sin, yet he is not that at all? I posted this for two main types of lost leaders, and Jesse is a unique case. By the way, perhaps you are imparting an ulterior motive on me that does not exist.
Thank you..and I have only written the truth. I would never lie about the character of any person....something that was done to me on the air, by someone who purports to be a minister of God. Not mad...thank God never have been about it..I know very well the evil game that was played.
You are correct about Jesse being nothing more than what he sounds like. The problem is that he does indeed teach that he is in that sin free state and has some in his church doubting the very “instinct”...really holy spirit, that they see about him. That is a very awful sin abigail2..to misrepresent the holy spirit. Jesus had some very harsh words for religious hypocrites in his day.
Jesse would be ok if he just stuck to being a right wing radio guy, but he is false and out of his league trying to act like a saved minister. Sorry you still have to blame me for bringing it up. It actually is a very fascinating and instructive case of the weakness of people and how evil hiding as a good leader, can make some doubt their true selves. It is the very bases for all false religions and cults...although I do know that Jesse does not teach a false religion...just represents it in example falsely.
The interesting thing is that abiagail2 had no comment nor disagreement about my true statements about weak church leaders...except when it came to “rev.” Peterson. It is as though it is okay to critique other church leaders, but not him. Really odd. I think because I had such an evil and rough treatment, she has always felt that any exposing on my part is me being angry about it. But how wrong of her to assume what my attitude is. I could be doing this as a very relevant and interesting case of another type of false minister...which indeed is the case. Truth be known, I would love to go on Jesse’s show or even meet with him or speak with him and patch things up. He will not...the spirit in him is absolutely terrified of me.
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