Posted on 02/24/2014 7:00:14 PM PST by montag813
I am surprised at your attitude.
That might not be true in that part of Arizona.
Lots of places in Texas, New Mexico, and Arizona that you don't hear much English.
It's always been that way, since Spain owned this ground.
/johnny
Where is the bathroom?
pronunced something like Yogsil (bathroom) Hwangjangsil (toilet)
More beer! maegju/makju
How much for your daughter?
(dang!)
Hello.
Annyeong! or formal Annyeong hasayo
Goodbye
Annyeonghi formal add: gaseyo
Thank You!
kamsahamnida
or just gomawo ! thanks!
....
Give me: Jusayo (just point, lol)
That's just reality.
I think that multiple languages are divisive, and not optimal, but that's got nothing to do with truth on the ground.
English is the common language of the world today. It's not spoken everywhere. I'll cope.
/johnny
So you will have your children learn Mexican?? Because Spain is not taking over our country. Mexican Spanish is different than European Spanish (which is taught in most high schools).
If you really want your children to be able to surrender you probably ought to have them learn some version of Cantonese
Golly gee.
I learn something new every day.
I wasn't aware that the Republic of Texas ever "belonged" to Mexico.
In fact, if history serves me, during that unsettled period, it wasn't clear who represented "Mexico."
Tell that to the Pima Community College people so intolerant of English, as many are around Texas. It’s a waste of time with me. I see the intolerance.
/johnny
I'm not saying it's right.
/johnny
It’s an outrageous situation and she is the only one I can see around doing anything about it. I see these outrages every day. The local shopkeepers, the High school exams for our kids, college entry preferences,
Pshaw.
I choose to not rationalize it. It is an outrage. When I went to nursing school I learned to be a nurse and I was busy with 24 credits a semester, not busy in court fighting for my rights to speak my own language.
With local shop-keepers, if they won't speak English, don't patronize them.
High School exams are in English. In some cases, they may be in Spanish for English as a second language students.
Texas fought a lawsuit on college preferences, and the anti-majority bias got hit hard with that.
It's not as bleak as you imagine.
And American culture is subverting theirs, too. I know parents that complain their kids only speak English, and not the language of the old country.
My grandkids can barely speak Cambodian. The other grandparents complain.
/johnny
If you think American Culture in America is subverting a foreign culture, we are done here.
Name a single American cultural food.
Not hot dogs.
Not apple pie
Not Hamburger (minced meat on a kaiser roll).
Not tacos.
Not BBQ.
Not Italian.
Not Chinese.
Possum stew... maybe.
Americans did reject the Nordic fermented shark thing....
/johnny
Chop Suey is an American invention. There wasn’t any Chinese counterpart of that.
Fortune cookies, too.
And mincemeat on a Kaiser roll, who ever thought that up. Is it lunch or is it dessert?
In the 70s when I was in grade school, everyone warned us that the Japanese would own all the real estate. "Learn Japanese!" was the warning. Such with Chinese/Cantonese/Mandarin.
Those of us living out there, and not being ostriches, know that it's in our childrens' best interest to learn Spanish. It doesn't mean "surrender." It means understanding reality.
It's all vulgar Latin.
And it's not that different. I was formally taught Castilian spainish, but I get along in Texas restaurant kitchens just fine.
/johnny
Nice catch from the nOOb pimp who posted the same article just before your post.
America will assimilate them? Not the other way around? Oh boy. I do think this conversation is over. Let’s drop it.
Where I come from, there were many people who came from old countries and were very appreciative to have a hope for a good life, and made it work.
They spoke German, Polish, Yiddish, Italian, and they did not allow their children to speak anything but English. It was considered a bad thing to do. they opened up delis with their own type of food, and they fixed and built things according to their talents.
And they educated their kids. they went to ball games, and participated in the communities.
There was bigotry and hatred but it was wrong. There was never a question that American Culture would prevail.
The Irish had so much trouble at one point that, coming from the old country, no one who had an education could hope to do anything more than building, or police and fire work when they got here.
And they educated their children and grandchildren, and all of that is forgotten. All cultures had that story from one degree to another.
on the Lower East Side, the Jews settled. There and in Brooklyn. They gave us composers, entertainers, our comedy culture, and it was not Russian, it was American, as in Irving Berlin’s “God Bless America”.
You have ethnic food, stories, traditions, gifts from all over the world in America.
anyone who says this deal, where an American student living in America has to go to court, taking time off from nursing school, or to take time off of nursing school to learn another language in her own country is not looking at this in a way that considers reality of the situation. Not the future of the situation and does not question the logic, not the history of immigrants assimilating into this country.
This is not going to go well, and If it’s not rejected it will turn out very badly.
When I go to another country to live, I take the time to learn the language. Period. and I’ve done just that.
Not that long ago, all things considered.
I'm not going to sweat over the languages. It will sort itself out over time.
/johnny
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