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Regarding "Ukraine" vs "the Ukraine"
self | 23/12/14 | self

Posted on 02/23/2014 1:19:23 AM PST by Don W

Fellow FReepers, know this:

In Russian, the ukraine means "the frontier".

To Ukrainians, Ukraine means HOME.

We don't call it "The France", or "The Germany", or "The Mexico", etc.

Drop the "the" and correctly use the nation's name uncorrupted by the oligarchs in "mothertrucker Russia".


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KEYWORDS: russia; theukraine; ukraine; viktoryanukovich
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1 posted on 02/23/2014 1:19:23 AM PST by Don W
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To: Don W

Noticed Glen Beck repeatedly calling it “THE Ukraine” and went hoarse screaming at the TV...maybe next time I’ll try like email or something.


2 posted on 02/23/2014 1:29:37 AM PST by stormhill
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To: Don W

The Netherlands.

The Philippines.

The Congo.

Argentinians call their country “La Argentina.”


3 posted on 02/23/2014 1:30:58 AM PST by Reaganez
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To: Reaganez

The Sudan


4 posted on 02/23/2014 1:40:00 AM PST by man_in_tx (Blowback (Faithfully farting twowards Mecca five times daily).)
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To: Reaganez

The USA.


5 posted on 02/23/2014 1:41:43 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Don W

THE Peoples Republic Of Kalifornia (New York, etc.)


6 posted on 02/23/2014 1:41:53 AM PST by Veggie Todd (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TJ)
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7 posted on 02/23/2014 1:44:04 AM PST by Veggie Todd (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TJ)
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Well, you are entitled to your own stupid opinion, no matter how wrong you are...

Being of Ukrainian descent, I suppose such “trivial” things mean more to me than you.

Long ago I learned that the word vegetarian meant “really lousy hunter that relied on the womenfolk to feed him”.


8 posted on 02/23/2014 2:16:52 AM PST by Don W (Know what you WANT. Know what you NEED. Know the DIFFERENCE!)
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To: Don W

Right on the money. My fiancé is Ukrainian. People need to understand that partition was a generation ago. Ukrainians self identify as Ukrainian not Russo-Ukrainian or other garbage descriptions.


9 posted on 02/23/2014 2:29:55 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Don W

“Comments?”
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My only comment is that you are absolutely correct.


10 posted on 02/23/2014 3:38:48 AM PST by House Atreides
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To: Veggie Todd

LOL now that’s “The Truth”.


11 posted on 02/23/2014 4:08:17 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Don W

The Bronx.


12 posted on 02/23/2014 4:17:11 AM PST by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: Reaganez

La Havana


13 posted on 02/23/2014 4:57:55 AM PST by battlecry
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To: Yaelle

The Hague
The Congo


14 posted on 02/23/2014 5:04:25 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: Don W

Russians call it “the Ukraine” except.....there is no definite article in Russian.


15 posted on 02/23/2014 5:11:32 AM PST by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: Don W

Ikraine
Ukraine
He/she/itkraines
Wekraine
Theykraine

And then there’s my favorite actress, Jeannekraine...

(Yes, I’m just kidding; if it’s any consolation I’m trying to break myself of the “The Ukraine” habit, but it’s about as hard on the old brain as, well, not calling the place above Ukraine “the Soviet Union,” or referring to Saigon as “Ho Chi Minh City”)


16 posted on 02/23/2014 5:13:18 AM PST by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: Don W

There are also “Ukrainians” who have been in Kiev for many generations, who are Kievan Rus... ie they speak and have always spoken russian, and ukrainian was at best a second language. They are also Orthodox and not Catholic, that still does not mean they were ever pro russian.

Before the communists came, both my grandfather and grandmother came from families that spoke russian and french at home. During World War II, my grandparents and father managed to escape westward, the rest of the family stayed behind. Some eventually moved to Riga, but since the fall of communism they are no longer welcome there.


17 posted on 02/23/2014 5:16:36 AM PST by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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What is the difference between written Russian and Ukrainian languages ?


18 posted on 02/23/2014 5:18:52 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Ukrainian is a Cyrillic employing several Lathin letters. Russian is fully original.


19 posted on 02/23/2014 5:32:00 AM PST by cunning_fish
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To: cunning_fish

What is the connection to written Greek ?


20 posted on 02/23/2014 5:35:24 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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