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Posted on 02/21/2014 2:39:18 PM PST by butterdezillion
See above about an Epi aerosol.
What do you see? That is the question I asked.
I see people, clothes, shoes. I see no diver. Keep on spamming everyone with this “what do you see” comment and it becomes obvious you cannot dispute the evidence against a diver.
As an example of your lack of research cred, you just ignore provable information that a diver would drown in seconds with a tank and no flotation vest. Show me the flotation vest in the photos. No vest, no diver.
And perhaps while you are at it, you could explain why a murderous diver would not first disable the guy filming the assasins’ every move!
A single tank of a comparable size to that which you believe you saw in the photos would not possibly last for the period of time you are suggesting this diver was in the water. A diver never takes to the water with less air than they need to complete the dive - to suggest otherwise is just silly.
See post 354.
Black shoes with light colored soles.
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Thanks. I did finally read this far and saw the closeup of the shoes. The fast-moving video showed the black shoes, but the soles weren’t easy to see. If that is Fuddy on her back, tipped that far back, then it appears that she was already in trouble. It doesn’t look good. Her head ought to be well out of the water. Being as bottom heavy as she was, perhaps she couldn’t float upright like the others. Maybe her bum kept bobbing up, pushing her head backwards?
That water does not look that deap there, and I missing something there ? they are walking on the rocks that water must be about 3 feet deep.
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The people in the cabin were acting calm, looking around before the horn went off. I didn’t hear a loud clunk and the first point that anybody started acting like anything was amiss was when the horn sounded - after the video had already been running for a while, which is how we managed to get the calm, everybody-seated cabin shots showing who all was there. It was important for us to see the cabin shots, to know who all was “supposed to be” there. Those shots being there just don’t match the story he had to tell later on, to make it seem less odd that he was filming when it happened.
Like the images of Clyde Kawasaki out of the water before everybody else had exited, holding onto the seat cushion that he publicly stated he couldn’t even find because the waters were so rough... what’s on the video and what was spoken publicly does not match. And not just in interviews. Also the information claimed in official documents such as the MCFD’s incident report and the NTSB’s initial report.
None of it matches what is actually in the video.
So far this morning I’m back on.
Ping to more images and questions. If you think that the yellow protrusions you saw were Fuddy’s shoe(s) there are some more annotated images and questions for you.
If ABC would allow the whole video to be seen clearly, everybody would be able to see the whole progression and we wouldn’t have to take it in bits and pieces.
These images begin to show what ABC has done, but future images will tell even more...
What if it’s not an assassination?
The only other Cessna 208B engine failure in the past 30-some years that the NTSB has investigated was within 50 days and 25 miles of this one, and it - like this one - was “investigated” so poorly by the NTSB that the plane was left unattended for the evidence to be contaminated. When Makani Kai pulled this plane out of the water 6 days after the crash it was in pieces, even though it had gone into the water nearly intact.
The pilot of the earlier Mokulele Air crash was loudly praised but never named, which is also interesting because Clyde Kawasaki (the pilot in this crash) has never been listed as a Makani Kai pilot on either of their web pilot listings, even though it’s claimed he’s flown for them for 2 years and their pilot list was updated AT LEAST twice in the past year.
Of course, it may just be coincidence that the MCFD person who reported to the media that there was one death 20 minutes before the USCG PO in charge knew how many were even retrieved..... was Richard KAWASAKI, the first person on scene to the area.
There are way too many discrepancies and coincidences in the story for me to mention here. The two images I’ve asked questions about show totally different possible apparrel and gear so I doubt that any of these people are “official” people.
As to how somebody could get there, the Cessna 208b is supposed to hold 14 passengers. The cargo area was free, and Puentes (who had 2 GoPro cameras and water-appropriate mouthpiece with him at the time and was filming the passengers BEFORE the engine failure happened) put his hand over the camera (or in some other way caused a dark screen) which allowed a place for the video to cut off there and resume after the footage where the “extras” exited the plane ahead of the other passengers was cut out.
In later images you will see this is exactly what ABC did with Puentes’ video - used a dark underwater scene to cut away from something they didn’t want us to see and have the video come back with the camera in a different location.
I commented elsewhere also that the ABC announcer said the passengers were all out in under 2 minutes, according to the time counter on the video. But the slowest part of the plane’s sinking would have been when the mostly-empty fuel tanks were keeping the plane afloat because of the air in them. Only as the air was displaced by water would they become heavy and make the plane sink, tipping the nose down first. According to the video the water was already up to the level of the cabin floor by the time the door was opened. That timeframe just doesn’t work. Some time was presumably edited out of the CABIN portion of that video.
You are very good at asking questions - hopeless at answering them. Perhaps you would be polite enough to respond to my questions above concerning diving protocol. If not, I will be forced to draw my own conclusions about your seriousness as a researcher.
Very interesting info, butter. Especially about the pilot, and the other plane “crash”. Sounds as though he did a practice run for this, possibly.
If Fuddy was extricated from the scene, I wonder if it was black hats or white hats doing it.
BZ you are good at asking questions but hopeless at answerng them.
Perhaps you could consider being polite enough to reply to the questions posed to you in you my replies to your questions above. They concern my area of expertise, diving protocols. This is at the nub of your theory yet you ignore it compleyely. A failure to respond will reflect badly on your researcher cred, such as it is.
I would have to assume black hats with all the media complicity.
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