YES PLEASE!
All I need to know is which of these new states will be red and not blue, then I will start paying for moving trucks.
Knee jerk reactions are always a good idea. /s
NOTE, The proposal would divide California into:
* Silicon Valley, which would include San Francisco and nearby counties that are home to technology giants like Facebook and Apple.
* West California, which also would include the coastal cities of Santa Barbara and Ventura and of course, Los Angeles
* The state’s farming heartland would become Central California. This would encompass much of the states desert region, including Bakersfield, Fresno and Stockton to the state’s border with Nevada.
* South California ( which includes San Diego ). Also Irvine and Riverside, and stretch from the coast to the border with Arizona.
* North California would include a smaller chunk of land, with Sacramento
* Jefferson would be the most northern state, including Chico, Redding and Eureka up to the Oregon border.
Good idea. California is way too arrogant and reducing its size would reduce its reach across the country and across the world. It’d also screw up Governor Brown’s ideas for high speed rail and his plan to siphon most of Northern California’s water to LA with his delta tunnels project.
That alone will cause me to vote against it. I live near Ventura and now we at least have a chance of electing Republicans. LA and Santa Barbara would place that "state" permanently under Marxist control.
Do you really want my idiot neighbors to get ten more senators? That sounds like a horrible idea. Imagine ten more Barbara Boxers in Washington. I get the heebeegeebees just thinking about it.
I am all for it.
Since democrats now run the state, don’t be surprised when their plan is to create one large (in area) conservative state (Central Valley, desert, mountain, way north of San Fran bay... MAYBE San Diego)), and five smaller liberal ones:
1. Pelosia-Marin, (north of San Fran)
2. Free-to-do-as-you-please-no-matter-how-sick (San Francisco itself)
3. Hippie Panther (Oakland-Berkeley, east bay area)
4. El Norte Mexicana (Los Angeles basin)
5. Eco-Coastopia (Big Sur-Santa Barbara).
That will add 8 more democrats to the us senate (they have two now) and 2 possibly conservatives to the Senate.
The progressives will NEVER let this power base scrivel...
Even IF mexifornos want it to..
Remove their power from their COLD DEAD HANDS.. And nothing LESS..
Course SOME counties Could succeed... from the State and form a new State..
But the feds wouldn’t allow that either..
Cloward-Piven is brilliant the Coup D-Etat is quite complete..
America is no longer a republic it’s a democracy..
ONLY a Civil War can shake the behemoth...
Did I say (( ONLY ))..... You know.. BLOOD and everything..
I’m not sure 10 more senators from California is a good idea.
I would support it. Looks like all the San Fran crazies are bunched up in one state and would probably result in 3 republican leaning states and 3 rat dominated states. This is very much a silicon valley play though as it looks like they want to separate from the rest of Kalifornia and make that their own little play ground.
The problem with something like this is the devil is in the details, for example how do you allocate the state pension funds and responsibility for paying all those fat pensioners? And does everyone start off with the same set of laws or is the slate wiped clean and newly elected representatives have to rush to create new laws. Or how about the state constitution for each of these and who is going to write them? Also I don’t see any of the new states except for the SV one being economically viable enough to stand on their own.
All that said I’d vote for it anyway just to be able to sit and watch the disaster unfold right in front of me, just need to practice up on my zombie Apocalypse a little to be fully prepared ;)
AH, JUST RETURN CALIFORNIA BACK TO MEXICO.
NO! That means 12 more senators from kalifornia.
It’s not too big, it’s too liberal. Wouldn’t most of the created states still be Democrat-controlled? If so, then wouldn’t even more liberal senators be going to DC?
BOY!!!!!!
‘They’ will go to ANY lengths to make BO’s 57 states statement a truth, not a boneheaded statement by a bonehead.
And give them Twelve Senators????
Better than this would be THREE states, one of which has already been proposed, the state of Jefferson in the far north, and would likely include every county to the north of Sacramento.
The second reasonable state would be south of Sacramento inland of the coast range of mountains to the Nevada/Arizona border.
The third, which for purposes of calling it liberal paradise, could retain the name California, and be the harrow, ultra-liberal strip of land from north of the Orange County line (Including all of the LA Basin) through Marin county to the north of the Gay Bay, and would include Sacramento County.
That would make four new senators, most likely conservative and would move at about half of Ca's electors in presidential elections into the red column.
Has anyone figured out how this would play out with Electoral votes? As things stand now, California’s 55 votes are in the Democrat column right from the get-go. I would have to think that this plan would peel some of them off, even taking into an account a possible net increase in Dem senators.
If anyone has actually run the numbers (based, I presume, on 2012 results) I’d love to see it.