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To: Kevmo; Alamo-Girl; TXnMA
So it’s easier to truncate it to Matter travelling faster than the speed of light. That way I don’t have to deal with Time travelling faster than Time.

Sounds like a nifty plan, dear Kevmo. The only problem I see is we can't truncate the universe to fit the categories of our present understanding without falsifying the report we get from observation of what is real, outside our minds.

Which is to say that, not only is man not the Measure of God; He is not even the Measure of the World God made. The theoretical scientist's job, it seems to me, is to seek the Measure as a guide to his work. [See Romans 1:20]

Then he might get somewhere. That, BTW, is the route that, among many others, Newton and Einstein took....

And mathematics is the tool for the job. P. S. Wesson presents an excellent example of this.

187 posted on 02/24/2014 4:30:36 PM PST by betty boop (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. —Thomas Jefferson)
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To: betty boop

Sounds like a nifty plan, dear Kevmo. The only problem I see is we can’t truncate the universe to fit the categories of our present understanding without falsifying the report we get from observation of what is real, outside our minds.
***My problem with using SPace*Time is that Matter is a part of space, and multiplying it out to space*time & manipulating it just makes it more of a fancy mathematical trick. Matter is moving faster than the speed of light if it is a part of space*time during that inflationary period. So, yes, maybe I’m truncating, but it’s better than handwaving with smoke & mirrors.


189 posted on 02/24/2014 5:37:13 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: betty boop
Which is to say that, not only is man not the Measure of God; He is not even the Measure of the World God made. The theoretical scientist's job, it seems to me, is to seek the Measure as a guide to his work. [See Romans 1:20]

Precisely so, dearest sister in Christ! Thank you for your insights!

191 posted on 02/24/2014 7:57:20 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: betty boop; Alamo-Girl
"Which is to say that, not only is man not the Measure of God; He is not even the Measure of the World God made. The theoretical scientist's job, it seems to me, is to seek the Measure as a guide to his work. [See Romans 1:20]"

Obviously, dear Sister in Christ, I agree with you re Romans 1:20, and, on another FR thread, I did so with enthusiasm!

I see this thread as seeking to "see the invisible", using (or, misusing) tools provided by application of our knowledge of things we have learned in the past -- of His works...

Such (measurement) efforts, I see as worthy (and perhaps, even worthwhile) applications of the principles of Romans 1:20.

198 posted on 02/25/2014 5:45:21 AM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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