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HORROR! Cop instantly shoots, kills teen who answered door holding video game controller
The Daily Caller ^ | 2-19-2014 | Robby Soave

Posted on 02/19/2014 3:37:02 PM PST by servo1969

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181 posted on 02/19/2014 8:26:23 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: andyk

“...I am in the don’t put your finger on the trigger unless you intend to shoot camp.”

Me too. And you’re welcome.


182 posted on 02/19/2014 8:28:11 PM PST by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: llmc1

My husband, who’s in the business, has seen that the more “intellectuals” they hire, the more clueless the department becomes.

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Interesting comment.

Many years ago many departments hired those who could demonstrated basic common sense and had some “street smarts” . Those who seemed somewhat “seasoned or experienced”, before being hired.

Nowadays?

Most law enforcement agencies seem much more concerned with how many “college credits or degrees” one might have, while at the same time lowering the physical standards to accommodate the females...


183 posted on 02/19/2014 8:48:08 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: servo1969; The_Victor; GraceG; equaviator; SkyDancer; Salvey; subterfuge; basil; Boogieman; ...
>>> Is the mere possession of a firearm or a toy that looks like a firearm justification?
>> Of course not. And I never suggested such a thing.
> There are folks here who hold that position. They also tend to say anyone not immediately obeying every command deserves to be shot.

>> ...do we all have to go around with our hands in the air these days to keep from being shot by the police? > Oh no! What we all have to do is, when they come knocking (IF they knock), is hit the floor, spread eagle, wait for them to break the door down, and pray that they don't take out their steroid-enhanced anger out on our necks and backs. And don't forget to say "Yes sir!" "No sir!"

> Also, why are so many public employees armed? Why is the USPS buying ammo? Why does the IRS have armed SWAT agents? They can’t use a better trained specialized police unit? Public employees have become too militarized.

Answered here:
Stop, Drop, and Cower
[Direct Link]


I'll go so far as to assert that the police simply do not care about Justice at all, if they did then they as-a-group would not hesitate to "out" one of their own that did commit crime — instead we see them covering up the crimes of their fellows. Instead of embracing the long-held classical English/American philosophy It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer (William Blackstone), thy embrace a philosophy of there are only perps and perps we haven't caught.

Indeed, much of the problem can be laid at the feet of the acceptance of the legitimacy of the War on Drugs; I'd go so far as to say anyone advocating the War on Drugs cannot be a Constitutionalist — because the War on Drugs has damaged 90% of the Bill of Rights:

Amendment 10 — Destroyed by combining “necessary and proper” with the intrastate/interstate regulation of Wickard.
Amendment  9 — Everything. Seriously, EVERYTHING about the War on Drugs is about the federal government exercising powers not expressly delegated by the Constitution.
From Justice Thomas’s Dissent in Raich:
“If the Federal Government can regulate growing a half-dozen cannabis plants for personal consumption (not because it is interstate commerce, but because it is inextricably bound up with interstate commerce), then Congress’ Article I powers – as expanded by the Necessary and Proper Clause – have no meaningful limits.”
Amendment  8 — Mandatory minimums and zero tolerance combine to make the punishments outweigh many of the “crimes”, even is you accept the crime as valid.
Amendment  7 — In [civil] asset forfeiture, the victims are routinely denied jury-trials even though the amount in controversy exceeds $20.
Amendment  6 — The clogging of the courts with drug-related cases erodes the notion of a “speedy trial” to a joke. Often drug charges are added on to the list of crimes, which can “taint” the jury w/ prejudices. Often police act on informants whose identities are “protected”, which impairs the ability to confront the accuser.
Amendment  5 — How does “Comprehensive Forfeiture Act of 1984” comply with “No person shall [...] be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law”?
Amendment  4 Kentucky v King
”The Fourth Amendment expressly imposes two requirements: All searches and seizures must be reasonable; and a warrant may not be issued unless probable cause is properly established and the scope of the authorized search is set out with particularity. [...] The proper test follows from the principle that permits warrantless searches: warrantless searches are allowed when the circumstances make it reasonable, within the meaning of the Fourth Amendment , to dispense with the warrant requirement.”
In other words: Yes, the fourth amendment requires warrants for searches, but… fuck that!

Amendment  3 — [Nope, nothing here... yet.]
Amendment  2 — Arguably, the “prohibited persons” from the `68 GCA.
Amendment  1 — Religious freedom is denied via the war on drugs ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Employment_Division_v._Smith ), there are stories of “legalization”-advocacy publishers being raided/harassed. So, that’s 90% of the amendments in the Bill of Rights.
If that's not cause for concern, and impetus for stopping the War on Drugs then is there anything that cannot be done in its name?

servo1969:
A very powerful interview I watched was of the McLennan county sheriff in Waco Texas in the aftermath of the Branch Davidians slaughter. The Sheriff knew the Davidians and offered to walk in to the compound and talk to David Koresh. The ATF and FBI refused and we all know the result. A good cop, the Sheriff, was over ruled by agents playing army and the whole lot of them were massacred.

The police are not your friends; you should never talk to the cops. (Even other cops agree.)

184 posted on 02/19/2014 9:17:52 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: servo1969

She needs to go to jail!


185 posted on 02/19/2014 9:23:50 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: OneWingedShark

Great post, thanks.


186 posted on 02/19/2014 9:30:01 PM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Amendment 3 — [Nope, nothing here... yet.]

http://godfatherpolitics.com/11621/homeowner-arrested-for-not-allowing-police-to-use-his-house-for-stakeout/

http://www.westernfreepress.com/2013/07/10/nevada-man-assaulted-by-police-for-refusing-to-let-them-headquarter-in-his-home/

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/07/08/third-amendment-violated-nev-police-allegedly-invade-familys-home-to-use-during-swat-call-arrest-two-for-obstruction-when-owner-refuses/

Update the list


187 posted on 02/19/2014 9:35:03 PM PST by GraceG
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To: OneWingedShark

Powerful stuff, thanks...........


188 posted on 02/19/2014 9:40:51 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: GraceG
I thought about that case, but I did say the War on Drugs, this appears to have domestic violence as its impetus — I'd have to do some proving to link the general degradation of the rule of law / due process engendered by the WoD to this… and even then the connection would be tenuous.
189 posted on 02/19/2014 9:42:33 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: GraceG

Those range targets are very scary.

Makes you wonder what Homeland Security has in mind for us.


190 posted on 02/19/2014 9:45:03 PM PST by miserare (2014--The Year We Fight Back!)
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To: miserare; GraceG
Those range targets are very scary.
Makes you wonder what Homeland Security has in mind for us.

But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

191 posted on 02/19/2014 10:12:17 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

Of course there wasn’t one, that would entail a journalist actually doing their job and researching something.


192 posted on 02/19/2014 10:52:43 PM PST by wastedyears (The Ender's Game movie was a stupendous, colossal, galactic failure to me.)
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To: servo1969

Agree. I was hoping this was satire. Women don’t belong in combat roles, especially in a police state, Exhibit Z.

Rest in peace young man.


193 posted on 02/20/2014 3:13:51 AM PST by OldNewYork
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To: OneWingedShark

Recreational drugs hurt a lot of people and result in a significant amount of evil. With that said, the war on drugs is a failure. With all the lives ruined, militarized police, and aggressive enforcement you can still buy any drug you want in any town or city in this country.

Perhaps teaching our children morals is a better option.


194 posted on 02/20/2014 3:40:31 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: servo1969

Where is the photo of this female cop? I’ll bet she is a wide load and lesbian looking.

******* To be fair. The daughter of an old friend is gay and serving in the PD of a NE city. She is smart and competent. Kind of cute last time I saw her. She has two children from a real marriage so she did her female duty. Today she lives with a woman.


195 posted on 02/20/2014 3:51:21 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: servo1969

” The officer broke down it tears upon
realizing her mistake, according to The
New York Daily News.

She had been making a probation-related
visit to the home. She thought Roupe was
holding a gun, according to a statement
from the police department.”

I guess we are all supposed to be sorry for the cowardly pig’s feelings. Cops walk around in such insane fear, that this crap happens.

I guess that if some screwball knocks on my door, I had best just shoot them through it. Because it is either a dangerous screwball intent on my harm, or a paranoid cop. Why should I value the cop’s life more than mine?


196 posted on 02/20/2014 5:12:17 AM PST by LevinFan
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To: servo1969
The officer has been placed on administrative leave while the police department investigates the matter.

I wonder what would happen to me if I shot some kid for no reason whatsoever?

197 posted on 02/20/2014 5:18:09 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: IYAS9YAS

I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell to anyone who thinks the Euharlee police are telling the truth.


198 posted on 02/20/2014 6:03:08 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: OneWingedShark

That looks like something i would write. Yeah i know. I wouldn’t write it as well as you did.

Thanks for the link.


199 posted on 02/20/2014 6:03:32 AM PST by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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To: servo1969
Terrible story but if he was holding the controller in a similar fashion as this picture I could see a potential for the tragic mistake. We'll never know.


200 posted on 02/20/2014 6:17:55 AM PST by McGruff (Every night has it's dawn.)
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