[Renfield]

Ping

[blackdog]

Much of Europe's ancient times (800 to 1,300 AD) have been embellished by the ruling class. Life was enough to kill most everyone by the age of 30. The logistics of arming, organizing, training, feeding, clothing, and moving vast armies about back then was impossible. Plague, various viruses, bacterial and fungal infections, and starvation was common living.

Every power which tried eventually suffered the same fate. They collapsed under their own draw-down on resources directly proportionate to distance from homelands.

[onedoug]

With the Romans on the descent by then what type of logistics would have helped them fight their way out of there?

I’d long thought they’d left fragmentarily.

“Time to head home, boys,” the Legion commander says. Though I bet a lot of ‘em went AWOL and stayed.

[Vigilanteman]

English is a Germanic language. The real native languages are Gaelic and Welsh.

Tegid, considered the father of the modern Irish race, was actually born in Wales about 300 a.d.

Thus, the peoples of the British Isles are actually an amalgamation of races descended from both natives and invaders.

[centurion316]

One way of looking at it was that Roman Britain stopped enforcing immigration laws. They also couldn’t collect enough taxes to pay the Army, which either left or dissolved.

[Little Bill]

My family originated in what is now Glostershire. In doing some research on the area. I was surprised to find that the Natives and the Saxons teamed up.

History can be confusing.

[Smokin' Joe]

They probably just started out doing the jobs the Romans wouldn’t do....