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To: Kevmo

“What the hell is LENR?” Basically it is a form of energy where hydrogen interacts with nickel to create excess heat.
‘’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’
If they’d said this years ago rather than use the words “cold fusion” there might have been less push back on principle.

That said these folks would garner themselves a lot more money and attention if they could plunk down successful experiments in front of a lot of different audiences and have them poke and prod them so as to show the experiments do what they say they’ll do—even when they’re around unbelievers.

This article looks like its trying to gin up some buzz for lenr by suggesting that unless americans get with the program the asians are going to take away the biz.

This would be effective maybe if there were a biz, a working energy generator —or even an experiment. but so far the authors have not sold the public on even the experimental results.


6 posted on 02/10/2014 1:11:37 PM PST by ckilmer
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To: ckilmer

This would be effective maybe if there were a biz, a working energy generator —or even an experiment. but so far the authors have not sold the public on even the experimental results.
***The Cherokee Investments boys are no slouches. They saw Rossi’s demo, verified it with their own independent expert, and then reached for their checkbooks to the tune of $20M. LENR is moving past the point of scientific anomaly. Or, as you put it, the point where “ if they could plunk down successful experiments in front of a lot of different audiences and have them poke and prod them so as to show the experiments do what they say they’ll do”...

The Wright brothers went through a similar phase, from 1903 to 1908. They were treated to a steady stream of lookieloos who asked for demos but none of them were in a position to write a check & buy airplanes upon successful demo. That is, until the Army wrote up an unbelievable contract for a flying machine and the Wrights met every technical requirement.


7 posted on 02/10/2014 1:41:20 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: ckilmer
"That said these folks would garner themselves a lot more money and attention if they could plunk down successful experiments in front of a lot of different audiences and have them poke and prod them so as to show the experiments do what they say they’ll do—even when they’re around unbelievers."

Won't happen. Not because of a lack of successful experiments (there are plenty of those), but because the pathological skeptics simply refuse to examine the data. And that is true both here on FR and in the wider world.

Case in point. At last year's "Cold Fusion Short Course" at MIT (in the EE dept.....NOT Physics), Mitchell Schwartz demonstrated his "Nanor" generator. It ran for the entire period of the course (course participants directly took data from the calorimetry and did their own calculations of excess heat), for another two months in Hagelstein's office, and then a far longer time back at Schwartz's lab.

NOT ONE PHYSICIST bothered to walk the short distance across campus to even look at the system.

16 posted on 02/10/2014 4:45:42 PM PST by Wonder Warthog (Newly fledged NRA Life Member (after many years as an "annual renewal" sort))
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