I counted them, 61 uuuuhhhsss in that interview. A real orator for sure!
That “61 uhhhhhh’s” is darned close to the # of “ uhhhhh’s” Hellary used in a C.F.R. Speech when she was a Jr. Senator. I can’t remember the exact # but it was more than 60, I counted them in the transcript, I had to know as that’s a pet peeve of mine! And it read horribly! LOL!