Nonsense. Lifeless matter is not intelligent. LDS believe matter is eternal and in some distant past ‘eternity’ a god sired the present god of our universe being ruled from a planet orbiting Koleb. I am not referring to such idiocy as that. I am referring to the axioms of ID and one of the most fundamental is that there is a Designer greater than the designed.
LDS believe matter is eternal and in some distant past ‘eternity’ a god sired the present god of our universe being ruled from a planet orbiting Koleb”
Spirited: Actually, the way it works is that the LDS god (primal man) mechanically evolved out of matter in the same way that Ra mechanically evolved out of Nu-—primordial matter.
We are agreed on such idiocy.
With respect to ID, if you’ll recall, my initial response was to Heartlander’s —own-— definition of ID. To wit:
“Intelligent design is not creationism, nor is it a religious position. It is the application of design theory to the natural and living world.”
Heartlander’s definition immediately precludes creation by the living supernatural God then goes on to define it as the application of design theory “to the natural and living world.” By definition, this is one-dimensional pantheism.
Christian theism is not one-dimensional but two-dimensional. There are two interfacing, interactive dimensions. The personal God dwells in the third heaven-—outside of the space-time dimension. He created heaven and earth (space-time dimension) through His living Word in six instantaneous acts of creation, since in the beginning was the Word (Augustine). God made heaven and earth in the beginning, not in the beginning of time but in Christ (Chrysostom, Augustine). God created the matter of the heavens and the matter of the earth, which came to be from nothing (Basil, Nemesius of Emesa) The meaning of creation is known from Divine Revelation (Basil). To Moses, God’s revelation of the beginnings was made adequately known and his account is to be fully trusted (Chrysostom).
It is largely accepted by modern men that the reason—natural science, theories, systems, etc.— and mystical encounters of men (i.e., Teilhard de Chardin) are superior to the Revealed Revelation of God. Moderns do not trust His Revealed Word, hence they run from the word “creation” as though it will taint them.