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Kevmo, I see you posted up a storm after everyone went to bed.

“But, next time, try to avoid the bowlsheet of saying that the coal industry sells their crap in Joules per bucket or anything like that. It’s a ridiculous argument. It appears that across the board, from 1W to 1MW, EE’s go into shorthand mode when they say Watts but mean Watt-Hours. But if you think that this means Mouser is shouting “SCAM” by following this shorthand, you’re simply way off.”

Uh, the coal industry does work in BTUs per car load or metric ton, somewhere along those lines. I also happen to be into railroading :) Model railroading in reality, but I love reading some of the real business info about coal, since it is still one of the railroad’s major cargos. Remember, BTUs convert directly to Joules, they are both energy units.

A given coal from a given mine, with a given moisture content, will burn in a boiler and produce X amount of heat energy. Another physics thing you should learn about. The entire system can be expressed in Joules. Because, once again, Joules are energy.

“Here’s a power calculator I generated for the industry:
http://www.sipex.com/files/ApplicationNotes/ThermalCalculator.xls”;

Link doesn’t work, and I wouldn’t trust it if you were the actual author. Sorry, that’s the breaks, given what I have seen of you so far on this forum. Besides, if you really know your stuff, you would know that “power dissipation” is actually based on Joules, since power without a defined delivery time, makes absolutely no sense. It is just expressed in degF/Watt dissipated, to make thermal calculations somewhat easier for the engineer.

“***Then it would appear that your pulse would last at MOST few seconds, not years. That’s all you needed to post. As you say, “Oy! That pretty much explains his knowledge failure, right there in that one sentence.”

Uh, no again. Never seen a coal train stop in a few seconds. Those locomotives use dynamic braking, and they dissipate heat through massive fan cooled power resistors for minutes on end. Even at the lumber mill level, servo trays running 100hp cutting motors across the planks easily stress resistors near continuously.

You see, in thermal engineering, more than the ohm and watt requirement are important. You just haven’t thought big enough, or oversimplified the problem in your head.

“I don’t think you got it any more than the other guy. He says that 1MW means 1MWH, that it’s a short-handed thing in, well, the coal industry. And all of us should know how the coal industry talks about such short hand because, well, coal used to be delivered by hand to each household or something like that.”

It’s you that isn’t getting it. Power systems like generating plants or nuclear reactors are rated for continuous operation. To determine the energy developed by such a system, time MUST BE A FACTOR. Energy without time is instantaneous power, and a absolutely worthless number to have around for a power plant.

“You seem to have gone the exact opposite in terms of your understanding. Are resistors measured in Watts? Or is it Joules? Well??? Where is the “Joule” setting on your multimeter? I thought for a brief instant you actually might know something, but ... sigh... it turns out you’re just as ignorant as many of these other skeptopaths.”

Again, power resistors have everything you need to calculate the limit of energy you can ask them to convert to heat and dissipate. This is Joules. Joules. Why don’t you just go look this term up rather than beating around the proverbial bush? Anything related to thermal dissipation of power, deals with Joules. Yes, electrical resistance is in ohms, but the derating values are VERY VERY REAL. You aren’t going to stop a locomotive with the calculated max watt power resistor for a given resistance. You will melt it down. The resistor has to be able to take the full ENERGY load (which is in Joules) and convert to heat energy.

“Q: How many bandwagons must a skeptopath jump onto before he feels superior to others who have more knowledge than him?

A: You tell me.”

I’ll bite. Zero. Because you have yet to prove that you have more knowledge than me. Though I would say initially I gave you the upperhand on LENR physics, but not anymore. You are just too ignorant on the whole of basic physics.

“Maybe if you answered the questions of how resistors are measured, where the “Joule” setting is on a volt meter, and the power density hypothetical posted, we might think you could make a point. But instead, you seem to persist in your ignorance, as if that were some kind of virtue.”

Once again, I really hope you get an education before working on power electronics.

“Tell ya what. If you answer the power density question, we can get down to whatever units you want to discuss.”

Oh, you want me to bow to the black box Rossi is pushing but can’t demonstrate either commercially or convincingly to a small platoon of 7 scientists? No, won’t be agreeing on that today. Don’t care how many people you scam in intrade, etc. E-Cat is dead, and you know it, even if you can’t admit it. He continues to burn through people’s hard earned money, probably on caviar and fine drink, while building these black boxes that he refuses to allow anyone inside of. Definition of con artist. Just like Blacklight. Patent it, let the secret go. I mean, people would find out anyway. I’d give it 3 hours before a instructable about how to tear down your e-cat would appear on some howto website, if such a thing actually existed at all.

The reason he won’t release is because the free “investment” money ride would be over. No more caviar and champagne.

1 J = 1W*s = 0.000277777778 watts * hour

That you don’t know this is further proof of your lack of any professional knowledge of physics or engineering. I was hoping you’d at least trap me on some nuance or such, but you have nothing. Zilch. Nada. Which means every god you pray too in free energy other than the God of Israel, I definitely mistrust. I guess we are lucky you are so unprepared to forward your thoughts. Probably has saved many from the scams you love forwarding along.

Link doesn’t work,
***It’s getting old now that Exar updated their website.

and I wouldn’t trust it if you were the actual author.
***And yet, I’m a published author in this field. So maybe all your huffin’ and puffin’ about coal is as meaningless as it sounds.

Sorry, that’s the breaks, given what I have seen of you so far on this forum.
***Given what I’ve seen about you, I wouldn’t trust you because you’re as slimy as an eel.

Besides, if you really know your stuff, you would know that “power dissipation” is actually based on Joules,
***Since I do know my stuff, if I had published that the resistor was dissipating too much heat in Joules, my boss would have changed it to the industry standard of Watts. If you knew YOUR stuff, you’d know that.

since power without a defined delivery time, makes absolutely no sense.
***Perhaps you’ll get around to showing why DVMs have Watts on them as a measurement, but not Joules. But you won’t. Because you don’t know what you are talking about.

It is just expressed in degF/Watt dissipated, to make thermal calculations somewhat easier for the engineer.
***So then what is your problem? If someone says the sun rises in the morning, do you get all huffy and puffy about them not knowing the solar cycle? Basically, you just proved to the forum that you’re an incredible asshole.

You see, in thermal engineering, more than the ohm and watt requirement are important. You just haven’t thought big enough, or oversimplified the problem in your head.
***And yet, as simple as things are in my head, none of you skeptopaths will address the energy density hypothetical.

Kevmo:“I don’t think you got it any more than the other guy. He says that 1MW means 1MWH, that it’s a short-handed thing in, well, the coal industry. And all of us should know how the coal industry talks about such short hand because, well, coal used to be delivered by hand to each household or something like that.”

Aqua: It’s you that isn’t getting it. Power systems like generating plants or nuclear reactors are rated for continuous operation. To determine the energy developed by such a system, time MUST BE A FACTOR. Energy without time is instantaneous power, and a absolutely worthless number to have around for a power plant.
***And your point is? This whole thing got started around the lenght of a pulse, and I pointed out that the original article says that “The fuel can be continuously fed into the electrodes to continuously output power. “ You would presume to lecture me on the differences between Volts/bucket-o-coal or some stupid thing over that? It just points out how much of an asshole you are.

Again, power resistors have everything you need to calculate the limit of energy you can ask them to convert to heat and dissipate. This is Joules. Joules.
***So, then your answer to the questin of “Where is the “Joule” setting on your multimeter?” is crickets. There is no Joule setting on the DVMs I’ve used. You can lecture me all you want on the differences between Joules and coal-lump-Volts but it won’t change the fact that your setting on the DVM does not say Joules, it says Watts. I wish it did say Joules, because then at least it would keep assholes from presuming as much as you do.

Why don’t you just go look this term up rather than beating around the proverbial bush?
***Uh, you’re the one who didn’t answer the question. But you continue to move forward in your browbeating attempt to show something that I already showed at the beginning of the thread. Gee, perhaps now you’re getting it, about to realize just how much of an asshole you’ve been shown to be.

Anything related to thermal dissipation of power, deals with Joules. Yes, electrical resistance is in ohms, but the derating values are VERY VERY REAL.
***Ho hum, more browbeating and lecturing from you over something that I showed at the beginning of the thread.

You aren’t going to stop a locomotive with the calculated max watt power resistor for a given resistance. You will melt it down. The resistor has to be able to take the full ENERGY load (which is in Joules) and convert to heat energy.
***More train nerd stuff. Perhaps you think that DVMs should have TrainBraking ratings? And some engineer who has never used such a rating in his life should be expected to do the mental conversion to Watts or whatever in his head?

Once again, I really hope you get an education before working on power electronics.
***And I would hope that you could stop being an asshole. But I have an EE degree already, but there appears to be no hope for you.

Kevmo: “Tell ya what. If you answer the power density question, we can get down to whatever units you want to discuss.”
***And lookie here, the guy didn’t answer the hypothetical. Yet he presumes to lecture me on power electronics.

Oh, you want me to bow to the black box Rossi is pushing
***Really? I ask you to address a hypothetical and that’s what you get out of the request? I ask you to give the answer to the hypothetical of “what is 1 Watt + 1 Watt”, will you be delivering a soliloquy on how all the mathematicians are in cahoots with eachother on this conspiracy?

but can’t demonstrate either commercially or convincingly to a small platoon of 7 scientists?
***Since when does a scientific demo have to be demonstrated commercially to anyone’s satisfaction other than the guy buying it? And Rossi DID demo to the small platoon, not that has anything to do with you answering simple hypotheticals. Geez, you’re an asshole.

No, won’t be agreeing on that today. Don’t care how many people you scam in intrade, etc.
***And yet, you presume to lecture me on power electronics. But what you seem to have missed is that upthread, where you think I made some mistake on some unit, I didn’t make that mistake. You just presumed I made it and proceeded from that assumption to push your asshole perspective. Perhaps the proper unit you should be promoting would be BTUs per asshole, since you can include yourself in the unit calculations.

E-Cat is dead, and you know it, even if you can’t admit it.
***Yet another skeptopath who wants to talk about Rossi on a LENR thread. Geez, are all you guys taking asshole training? Or is it just genetic...

He continues to burn through people’s hard earned money, probably on caviar and fine drink, while building these black boxes that he refuses to allow anyone inside of.
***Your concern for fraud is duly noted. Yet, you’re silent on the fraud of hundreds of $billions spent on controlled-hot-fusion, because the asshole bandwagon index is so high for that technology.

Definition of con artist. Just like Blacklight. Patent it, let the secret go.
***Wow, you’re pretty dumb for a skeptopath. Cold Fusion patents are suppressed in the USPTO. So there is no IP protection in this area of interest. But we shouldn’t expect stupid people like you to really come up to speed on such a topic.

I mean, people would find out anyway. I’d give it 3 hours before a instructable about how to tear down your e-cat would appear on some howto website, if such a thing actually existed at all.
***What are you droning on about? If you were in the position of an inventor who couldn’t get IP protection, how would you sell your stuff? You already are aware of the tremendous desire on the part of customers to tear it down. Oh, I know, you don’t address hypotheticals because you’re so obviously smarter than anyone else in the universe.

The reason he won’t release is because the free “investment” money ride would be over. No more caviar and champagne.
***Why would someone sitting on a $Trillion gold mine sell it for a $Million? And where’s your concern for the hundreds of $billions of hot-fusion fraud?

1 J = 1W*s = 0.000277777778 watts * hour
***Gee, you’ve demonstrated that you can look up a conversion table but you can’t address a hypothetical as simple as “what is 1Watt + 1 Watt”.

That you don’t know this
***You’ve been moving forward on this presumption for a long time on this thread. But any lurker can look upthread and see that NOWHERE did I demonstrate such a lack of knowledge. Now that the mods have seen that the assholes like you are ganging up on me, that means they’ve decided to keep this thread up rather than shut it down like all the others. So all I have to do is get you assholes to do the gang up and then I can finally respond in kind. Thanks for your participation.

is further proof of your lack of any professional knowledge of physics or engineering.
***No, it’s proof that you are a first class asshole. Thanks for your involvement.

I was hoping you’d at least trap me on some nuance or such,
***I did. To put it simply, all this bullshit you’ve been lecturing me on is all on the basis of a PRESUMPTION on your part. Upthread any lurker can see that your presumption is not based on any reality.

but you have nothing. Zilch. Nada.
***We have this thread. So many have been pulled by the mods because I was getting the better of the asshole skeptopaths that it was just a matter of finding out how many punches I need to take before they decide that they want the thread to stand rather than take it down. So what I now have is a good idea of how far you assholes are allowed to go in order to keep the thread open. Thanks. Keep up the good work, asshole.

Which means every god you pray too in free energy other than the God of Israel, I definitely mistrust.
***Well, you really are going off the edge here.

I guess we are lucky you are so unprepared to forward your thoughts. Probably has saved many from the scams you love forwarding along.
***If you’re so awesome at protecting people from scams, where are your loud viturperations against the scam of hot-fusion which has sucked down hundreds of $billions of taxpayer money? Huh? Nowhere. Because you’re a bandwagon jumper.