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Ex-Officers Found Not Guilty in Kelly Thomas’ Beating Death
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Posted on 01/13/2014 6:01:03 PM PST by AmericanHunter

http://ktla.com/2014/01/13/verdict-reached-in-trial-of-ex-officers-in-kelly-thomas-death/


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To: BunnySlippers

“BTW, I’m looking over closing arguments and am seeing one of the police trainers saying that the police used the usual techniques.”

Personally, this is what I find most disturbing, that they would consider beating someone to death “usual techniques”. This was totally unnecessary.


41 posted on 01/13/2014 7:32:13 PM PST by AmericanHunter
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To: FBD

I believe that his parents are still alive.


42 posted on 01/13/2014 7:34:44 PM PST by pbear8 (the Lord is my light and my salvation)
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To: AmericanHunter
Pure evil. Reminds me of what Mother Teresa said at the Clinton Prayer Breakfast:
"And if we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell other people not to kill one another?"

43 posted on 01/13/2014 7:35:32 PM PST by mlizzy ("If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic Adoration, abortion would be ended." --Mother Teresa)
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To: Pelham; FBD

I do NOT think 2nd degree murder charges are forthcoming.


44 posted on 01/13/2014 7:36:03 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: FBD

“This entire town was in an uproar over this case. Councilmen were ousted, the mayor and chief of police fired, 3 officers terminated. And the judge didn’t let the jury know any of these facts. They should have allowed the police records opened to see the light of day. But this is how government runs today, from city hall to Washington DC. Complete secrecy and no accountability whatsoever.”

I thought this was particularly egregarious, since Kelly Thomas’ past was continuously introduced to the court. Why not the people that killed him? They are public servants, are they not?


45 posted on 01/13/2014 7:39:22 PM PST by AmericanHunter
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To: AmericanHunter

They even beat (pardon the pun) Involuntary Manslaughter.

I have not followed the case, so I can’t judge. Just stating what I heard on KFI, the former LA based Radio Station of Rush Limbaugh.


46 posted on 01/13/2014 7:40:53 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Nobody owes you a living, so shut up and get back to work...)
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To: BunnySlippers; FBD

“It says ‘Ramos faces an additional count of 2nd degree murder’. Perhaps you can translate.”

Sure, I can translate. That article you cite is dated December 11th and it’s wrong.

Today, January 13th, Ramos was found not guilty of one count of manslaughter and not guilty of one count of 2nd degree murder.

That’s not guilty on both counts.


47 posted on 01/13/2014 7:40:53 PM PST by Pelham (Obamacare, the vanguard of Obammunism)
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To: Pelham

See post 44


48 posted on 01/13/2014 7:45:03 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Chode

sure they do


49 posted on 01/13/2014 7:50:46 PM PST by terycarl
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To: BunnySlippers

A 2nd degree murder charge was part of this trial. Ramos was charged with manslaughter and with 2nd degree murder. He was found not guilty on both charges:

“Ramos was facing second-degree murder and involuntary manslaughter charges, and Cicinelli was charged with involuntary manslaughter and excessive use of force under the color of authority.”

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-live-verdict-in-kelly-thomas-police-murder-case-20140113,0,5661959.story#ixzz2qLE6pTnP


50 posted on 01/13/2014 7:51:21 PM PST by Pelham (Obamacare, the vanguard of Obammunism)
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To: Pelham

See post 44


51 posted on 01/13/2014 7:53:51 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: BunnySlippers
"I'm looking over closing arguments am seeing one of the police trainers saying that the police used the usual techniques.”
-Beating a guy in the face so hard with the butt of a taser so hard, they broke his sinus cavities and cheekbones is a “usual technique”?
The judge told the jury to disregard that cop trainer's testimony, by the
way.

“Also, in closing arguments, it is shown that Thomas never stops fighting and resisting arrest.”
Are you aware that the blanket charge thrown at almost EVERYONE, in an arrest situation is “RESISTING ARREST”? Its usually a bogus throwaway charge, to get a person for *something*. If you so much as flinch in surprise, and pull away from an officer when they grab your arms, its “ resisting arrest.”
Try to not fight back when someone is smashing your face in. Natural survival instincts kick in, and you'll be flailing about to save your life too.

52 posted on 01/13/2014 7:54:03 PM PST by FBD (My carbon footprint is bigger than yours)
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To: FBD

Why did Kelly Thomas’s own mother testify she took out a restraining order against him wen he tried to keep her from breathing.

Why did his grandfather testify that Kelly took a poker to him?

are you one of those people who think he was this guy in a cute little cowboy hat?

http://www.dailynews.com/general-news/20140113/fullerton-police-officers-found-not-guilty-in-kelly-thomas-beating-death-case


53 posted on 01/13/2014 7:59:50 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: AmericanHunter

I read several articles about this case a few months ago. Once phrase haunted me for a long time, “The last words uttered by Thomas were, ‘Daddy, Help Daddy!’”. After seeing his pictures, that tore me apart. How anyone could do that to another human being is beyond my understanding,


54 posted on 01/13/2014 8:00:30 PM PST by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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To: FBD

You need to source your material.


55 posted on 01/13/2014 8:00:55 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: BunnySlippers

“RESISTING ARREST CHARGE IS TURNING OUR COUNTRY INTO A POLICE STATE”

http://www.copblock.org/323/resisting-arrest-charge-is-turning-our-country-into-a-police-state/


56 posted on 01/13/2014 8:10:40 PM PST by FBD (My carbon footprint is bigger than yours)
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To: BunnySlippers

As the father of a daughter with schizophrenia, I’m well aware of the mental illness. Are you one of these badge polishers who thinks 6 officers with a combined weight of 1,500 lbs are incapable of subduing a 135 lb skinny little mentally ill person without having to smash his face in?


57 posted on 01/13/2014 8:15:36 PM PST by FBD (My carbon footprint is bigger than yours)
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To: BunnySlippers
This little old lady was tackled and beat up in New Orleans in HER OWN HOME, when they demanded she leave her house during the Katrina gun grab fiasco. She told the cops she was fine, said she had plenty of food and showed them her little revolver. She was also charged with resisting arrest. And I'll bet you're just fine with that, aren't you.

http://www.salem-news.com/stimg/february222010/fox_guns.jpg

58 posted on 01/13/2014 8:28:03 PM PST by FBD (My carbon footprint is bigger than yours)
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To: BunnySlippers

video related to the above picture. ^^^ Sourced enough?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1Qx0cTze0M&feature=youtube_gdata_player


59 posted on 01/13/2014 8:34:39 PM PST by FBD (My carbon footprint is bigger than yours)
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To: tang-soo

Watch the unedited video and you can hear Thomas begging for his life as he is beaten to death:

http://tinyurl.com/cfvwwvd


60 posted on 01/13/2014 8:37:17 PM PST by Pelham (Obamacare, the vanguard of Obammunism)
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