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The question is how many more good Americans die while pretend to ourselves that we’re going to blast a Stone Age country into the 21st century?

If they'd keep their Stone Age evil to themselves, the answer would be zero more good Americans would die. But they spread their Stone Age evil all across the globe, wantonly murdering countless numbers of innocents in brutal ways. So good people will continue to die at their hands, whether it be American soldiers, or innocent people just going to work early one morning in NYC.

The question is how many more good Americans die while pretend to ourselves that we’re going to blast a Stone Age country into the 21st century? If they'd keep their Stone Age evil to themselves, the answer would be zero more good Americans would die. But they spread their Stone Age evil all across the globe, wantonly murdering countless numbers of innocents in brutal ways. So good people will continue to die at their hands, whether it be American soldiers, or innocent people just going to work early one morning in NYC.

We literally just got back from the movie, and I have to admit I'm torn. Part of me says do what it takes to finish it and get out (but that part of me would push the button on every nuke we have), and another part of me saw good Afghans in the movie who fight the Taliban and just want to be left alone. Of course, if the first part of me got his way, they'd be vaporized too.

A) Taliban and AQ are not the same thing.

B) The people fighting us in Afghanistan are fighting us because we're IN THEIR COUNTRY. They will never stop fighting us for being there. If foreign troops invaded our country and backed a corrupt government I hope you'd join me in fighting them too.

C) AQ attacked the U.S. because they see the U.S. as the power behind the throne of the corrupt dictatorships in the region they want to overthrow. If we weren't meddling in the internal politics of Middle Eastern countries (and we undeniably have been for over 50 years) AQ would be busying blowing up other muslims trying to establish the kind of government they want. OBL sought to punch the puppet master in the face. His hope was to get the U.S. more drawn into the region in the knowledge they would eventually tire and he hoped leave for good. If we don't really leave, we can expect more attacks.

I don't think trying to foster friendly dictatorships in the Middle East is worth the real costs we bear in blood, treasure and the birth of a totalitarian surveillance state at home. YMMV.