The Peak Oil Crisis: Cold Fusion Moves East

Falls Church News Press ^ | January 7, 2014 5:44 PM | Tom Whipple

[Kevmo]

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[vbmoneyspender]

Many of us believe that life on this planet is in a lot of trouble. The climate is becoming unstable; there are too many people; oceans are dying, sea levels are rising; and water, food, clean air, and minerals are coming into short supply. For many, the economy refuses to grow fast enough to maintain living standards.

This guy is channeling Tommy Lee Jones' character Bill Strannix from Under Siege.

[mountainlion]

Peak oil, the planet is in trouble, the oceans dying...

An article starting like this makes the author lose all credibility.

[Kevmo]

I don’t necessarily buy into human-caused global warming, but some of these other things are real enough.

Many of us believe that life on this planet is in a lot of trouble.
***Just an emotive statement.

The climate is becoming unstable;
***Probably not

there are too many people;
***Of course. That would depend upon all of us ladder pullers who are already here...

oceans are dying,
***Very emotive statement, but some oceans are pretty polluted and there’s not enough fish living in them for a fishing fleet on one trip.

sea levels are rising;
***Baloney

and water, food, clean air, and minerals are coming into short supply.
***I agree with all that.

For many, the economy refuses to grow fast enough to maintain living standards.
***And agree with that.

[mountainlion]

and water, food, clean air, and minerals are coming into short supply.

For many, the economy refuses to grow fast enough to maintain living standards.

These are things mishandled by the government and Obama in particular.

[vbmoneyspender]

Sexually transmitted diseases, deforestation, irreversibly progressive depletion of the global gene pool. It all adds up to oblivion, pal. Governments will fall, anarchies will reign. It's a brave new world.

William Strannix from Under Siege.

[Kevmo]

Now I see the humor ;-)

He forgot to add the “polluting of our precious fluids”.

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1416528896/tt0057012?ref_=tt_pv_md_2

[Kevmo]

Agreed. I think a cheap almost non-polluting energy source would almost solve many of the problems listed.

[EandH Dad]

Clean water has been in short supply in Europe for a long time, not here. Food is in short supply but obesity is a leading health problem. I’m not buying the short food supply statement. Certain minerals; true enough but they were rare before we found commercial uses for them.

[Hardastarboard]

For many, the economy refuses to grow fast enough to maintain living standards.

OMFG - has there EVER been a more economically illiterate statement? I mean other than anything Zero ever said about economics.

[Lorianne]

I agree. The author should instead refer to the situation as peak cheap energy.

[Kevmo]

Food is in short supply
***In many countries

but obesity is a leading health problem.
***here in the USA.

I’m not buying the short food supply statement.
***As long as there are “save the chilrun” commercials on TV where you can feed a child for 49cents a day, I’m buying it.

Certain minerals; true enough but they were rare before we found commercial uses for them.
***Well put. But part of the problem of accessing certain minerals is that it takes a lot of energy to get at them. By lowering the cost drastically for that energy, the problem is reduced.

[FredZarguna]

Food is not in short supply, and nearly every indicator you claim, or this hysterical author claims to be on the verge of calamity has been steadily improving for decades.

For example, http://www.gapminder.org/world/#$majorMode=chart$is;shi=t;ly=2003;lb=f;il=t;fs=11;al=30;stl=t;st=t;nsl=t;se=t$wst;tts=C$ts;sp=5.59290322580644;ti=2007$zpv;v=0$inc_x;mmid=XCOORDS;iid=phAwcNAVuyj1jiMAkmq1iMg;by=ind$inc_y;mmid=YCOORDS;iid=0ArfEDsV3bBwCdGlYVVpXX20tbU13STZyVG0yNkRrZnc;by=ind$inc_s;uniValue=8.21;iid=phAwcNAVuyj0XOoBL_n5tAQ;by=ind$inc_c;uniValue=255;gid=CATID0;by=grp$map_x;scale=log;dataMin=194;dataMax=96846$map_y;scale=lin;dataMin=1418;dataMax=3819$map_s;sma=50;smi=2$cd;bd=0$inds=

[FredZarguna]

Browse Gapminder and you'll find that we don't need fraud-based "energy" in order to solve problems that we don't have. In four decades, come back again, and you'll discover that global poverty, which has rapidly been declining for decades will be statistically GONE.

The only poor people left may be those who buy into the snake-oil schemes of Rossi and his ilk. In four decades you'll also find they haven't yet produced a LENR device that's anything but a hoax.

[Kevmo]

can’t access videos from here

We could be arguing semantics...

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/World_food_shortage

The trouble is less about the total amount of food (which there’s been enough of all along), and more about getting it where it needs to be. The standard mechanism is economics and politics. But these had suitable cracks in them for speculators to run wild.[1]

[dalereed]

Peak oil and LENR are total fallacies!

[Kevmo]

Why wait 40 years? LENR will all hash out within 5 years. Of course, both are arguments from silence, logical fallacies.

Browse Gapminder and you’ll find that we don’t need fraud-based “energy”
***What wonderful rhetoric you put out. Unfortunately it ain’t true and it’s provably fallacious. The Pons-Fleischmann Anomalous Heat Effect has been replicated more than 14,000 times, so any developments in this area are not “fraud-based”.

in order to solve problems that we don’t have.
***Again, magnificent but ridiculously wrong prose. Would it be better or worse for us to have cars that run 20,000 miles between refueling, with the price per mile about 20x cheaper?

snake-oil schemes of Rossi
***This thread isn’t about Rossi. It’s amazing how many times this has to be said on LENR threads.

[FredZarguna]

The graphs at Gapminder show moving kcal/person per country from 1965 to 2005. Over four decades, kcal/person availability has rapidly increased everywhere in the world except Africa. Even in Africa, it has increased. The distribution mechanism for food isn't broken.

What you're citing is a lot of hokum. There are no "food speculators" and "food speculators" aren't what keeps sub-Saharan Africa from enjoying the same rapid improvements as South America, Central, and Far-East Asia.

[AZLiberty]

Enough of the ad hominem attacks. What about the meat of the article? The author says that institutional interests that apparently outweigh the world’s access to abundant cheap energy have prevented the U.S. government and U.S. corporations from investing in a promising new approach to energy production. Asian companies seem to be taking up the slack.

Should we be worried, or should we be glad that energy will soon be as cheap as computer processing power — even if, like computer processing power, it comes from Asia?