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Legal Question About Census...
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Posted on 01/09/2014 11:13:43 AM PST by Cyber Liberty

I have a question for the Legal Eagles out there...

The Census people are pi$$ing me off. First, I got a post card telling me a questionnaire is coming, then another post card. After that, a VERY thick envelope with a very long and intrusive list of questions about things from who lives here, how long, incomes, professions.

Then there are questions like renting/owning, do I have a toilet, a refrigerator and the like.

I wrote on the form there are two people of the human race living here and dropped it in the mail.

Then I got a post card reminding me to fill it out.

A couple weeks ago some nice guy in his 50's or 60's shows up with a laptop wanting to ask me questions, so I told him I already sent the form in. He was here again just now, saying the form hadn't been processed yet, so could I answer the questions now? I told him no, I'm busy, so he said he's coming back in a week.

My question is, do I have to answer anything? All the mail I've received so far says I have to, it's the law, but I don't believe it. They lie a lot these days.

What do I have to tell these a-holes to just leave us the Hell alone? He left a card and a paper with contact information so I can call him if I need to.


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To: Cyber Liberty

WARNING ! PRIVATE PROPERTY

Persons entering this property must hold contract or
license with owner or tenant granting ingress with
indemnity, and carry proper identification to verify such contract or license.

No Trespassing

You are hereby notified, that the owner or tenant of this
property requires all public officials, agents, or person(s) to abide by ‘The Supreme Law Of The Land’ the
constitution of the United States of America, and the ratified amendments thereto.

Owner or tenant will refuse to permit any access, search,
audit, assessment, or inspection whatsoever of this
property without the presentation of a warrant,
prepared as prescribed by constitutional amendment IV
and XIV, and “Particularly describing the place to be
searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”
Alleged Real Estate non-compliances do not establish
constitutional reasons, for entering this property. Violators will be treated as intruders.

VIOLATORS TAKE NOTICE

Any official, agent, or person(s) entering this property
without consent of the owner or tenant, without proper
warrant as described above, will be treated as an
intruder attempting to trespass, extort, injure,
threaten, harass, intimidate, or otherwise jeopardize
the life of the owner or tenant of this property.

Violators may be fined not more than $10,000.00, imprisoned
not more than ten years, or both (U.S.C. Title 18, Sec.
241 and 242).

A person is guilty of criminal trespass if he/she knowingly
enters unlawfully upon this property.(Wash. State Code)
R.C.W 9A.52.080).

Owner/Tenant......................................Phone
John Q. Citizen..................................(000) 555 - 1234

Best material is a white plastic like cardboard, holds up to weather very good over the long term (like 10 years or more)
Had them made at a local sign shop is best.

Size(s) I would suggest is a minimum of 12" in wide X 17" in. tall.
Best 17"in wide X 24" in tall approx.

                               ENFORCING PROPERTY RIGHTS

The last defense to despotism(1) is an armed citizenry.  If the people be disarmed, what shall be their fate? 
They have lost their “liberty teeth”(2) and they shall be like defenseless sheep before ravening wolves.(3)
A document guaranteeing rights is only valid as the resolve to enforce its provisions.  without the ability to own
and control property, there are no rights!

Constitution for the United States of America (Amendments):

Amendment II
	A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep
and bear arms shall not be infringed.(4)

Amendment IV
	The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable
	searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, 	
supported by oath or affirmation and particularly describing the place to be searched and the 	persons or
things to be seized.(5)

Amendment XIV
	...No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of 
	the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property(6), without due 
process of law; nor deny to any person within its
jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Constitution of the State of Washington, Article I - Declaration of Rights (excerpts) : Section 2. Supreme Law of the Land. The Constitution of the United States is the law of the land. Section 7. Invasion of private Affairs or Home Prohibited. No person shall be disturbed in his private affairs, or his home invaded, without authority of law.(11) Revised Code of Washington, R.C.W 9A.52.010 (excerpts) : Definitions “Premises” includes any building, dwelling, structure used for commercial aquaculture, or any real property; “Enters or remains unlawfully” - a person “enters or remains unlawfully” in or upon premises when he is not then licensed(7), invited, or otherwise privileged to so enter or remain. .... A person who enters or remains upon unimproved and apparently unused land, which is neither fenced nor otherwise enclosed in a manner designed to exclude intruders, does so with license and privilege unless notice against trespass is personally communicated to him by the owner of the land or other authorized person, or unless notice is given by posting in a conspicuous manner(8). United States Code, U.S.C. Title 18, Sec. 241 and 242 (Conspiracy against rights, secured by the Constitution): If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any inhabitant of any state, territory, or district in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege so secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same; or If two or more persons go in disguise on the highway, or on the premises of another, with intent to prevent or hinder his free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege so secured....they shall be fined not more than $10,000.00 or imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both; ... Note: There are certain Defenses to Criminal Trespass: The Courts have permitted Trespass when there is eminent danger to property or to life (such as fire), and to a person “attempting to serve legal process”, such as a court order, warrant. This Court defense applies only if... the entry onto the premises was reasonable and necessary for service of the legal process.(9) Rights of Entry: Persons who hold contracts, or license with the Owner or tenant, have legal access to enter property, in accordance with their contractual agreements, such as utility companies or others who have been granted easements, or rights of way. For those of you living in Snohomish County, Washington State, what the County won’t tell you, is found in Title 28, 28.08.040: SCC = Snohomish County Code. Snohomish pronounced "Snow-Home-ish." SCC Title 28.080.040 (5): “Unless entry is consented to by the owner or person in control of any building, structure, property or portion thereof or conditions are believed to exist which create an immediate and irreparable land use or safety hazard, the inspector, prior to entry, shall obtain a search warrant as authorized by applicable law.’ (10) (11) Notations: 1. Despotism; absolute power of government; tyranny. 2. George Washington. 3. Pinus Contorta. 4. This right is absolute; without arms, there is no defense against tyranny. 5. Warrants must have “probable cause”, be “supported by Oath or affirmation”, must state the “place to be searched and the persons or things to be seized.” (Real estate non-compliances cannot be defined as a “thing” to be seized and such warrant cannot be considered lawful under Amendment IV, that is, if one can understand plain English.) 6. States must comply with due process procedures and with the Constitution. “The Supreme law of the land” of the United States. 7. “License” - permission or legal permit. Utilities may have legal permits to read meters, etc. Others may have easements or rights of way to enter property. 8. Your property is open to trespass unless fenced, enclosed to exclude intruders or unless posted in a conspicuous manner. 9. To prevent the use of “reasonable and necessary” for Trespass, put your name, mailing location and phone number on your No Trespassing sign! 10. County inspectors, when refused entry to a property, must obtain a legal search warrant prior to entry. 11. In Seattle vs. McCready, 123 Wn 2nd 260, Feb. 29, 1994 The Washington State Supreme Court held that Courts do not have the authority to issue search warrants on “less than” probable cause to enforce building safety codes.

41 posted on 01/10/2014 12:41:36 AM PST by Stanwood_Dave ("Testilying." Cop's don't lie, they just Testily{ing} as taught in their respected Police Academy.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

The census is sending out 250k of the American Community Survey each month or about 3 million per year. Who knows where information returned really ends up. Other government agencies, corporations, ? They have addresses and phone numbers. Anybody really think all this personal information is confidential?

We got one. I refuse to answer the questions. We’re receiving additional mailings and phone calls. They’re acting like a collection agency going after delinquent debts.

This is kind of a good thing. The more people they piss off, the more people will understand the nature of our federal government.


42 posted on 01/13/2014 6:27:54 AM PST by MulberryDraw (Repeal it.)
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