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To: papertyger

A woman’s responsibility should be the same as the man’s responsibility. If two people co-create a child, BOTH are responsible for the child.

Jointly, BOTH can decide to give up the child for adoption. But if one parent decides to keep and raise the child, then the other parent has to contribute as well.

The whole focus should be on what is best for the CHILD, not how much responsibility one parent can foist off on the other parent.

Bickering about who is responsible for the child being created is beside the point and is only an exercise in trying to absolve one parent or the other from responsibility ... the only outcome of that is the child will bear the full consequences, not the adults.

After a child has been created, the parents have forfeited their unilateral decision making opportunities. Each adults’ personal decisions for themselves become secondary to the welfare of the child from there on out.

If society supported and enforced such a position we would never have had child abandonment in the past nor abortion today.


66 posted on 01/09/2014 10:32:34 AM PST by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: Lorianne

You are arguing for the status quo as if that’s not what exists now.

It certainly isn’t a fix.

And responsibility is precisely the problem. It is the height of conceit to expect men to shoulder a responsibility women have awarded exclusively to themselves.


69 posted on 01/09/2014 10:49:39 AM PST by papertyger ("refusing to draw an inescapable conclusion does not qualify as a 'difference of opinion.'")
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To: Lorianne
Jointly, BOTH can decide to give up the child for adoption. But if one parent decides to keep and raise the child, then the other parent has to contribute as well.

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After a child has been created, the parents have forfeited their unilateral decision making opportunities. Each adults’ personal decisions for themselves become secondary to the welfare of the child from there on out.

Giving the man a veto on putting the child up for adoption would likely get you lynched by feminists.

Here's an alternate proposal: the woman gets to specify a level of child support she feels is fair. The man gets to decide whether to pay the support, or take custody of the child and have the woman be legally liable for the child support.

74 posted on 01/09/2014 11:10:25 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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